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Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

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Canadian spelling. :^o
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GumpAir wrote:You spelled FISH wrong on the Cessna! :lol:

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LOL, not a lot of people notice that but ya I sure did. It was as close as i could get. :) Not a lot of options left for us for picking cool call signs. I was happy to end up with C-FSIH. Most people actually don't notice that it's spelt wrong.
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Monstermuley wrote:I just put the 8.50 x 6's on the mains and the 8.00x6 on the nose with the airglas nosefork and I love it for my home strip. Theres a few rocks and bumps on it so the factory setup was a big to small. I just ordered the VG's for it as well. Getting my fishin rig done up nicely a little at a time! :D


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There's a couple of us going fishing on June 9th. You should join us!




Where are you guys headed. I get off work on the 1st and was planning on heading up north to uranium city around the 4th or 5th for a few days. Then home for the weekend and then back up to walleston lake for a week. But my plans are always open for change. :-D

I'll PM you. Don't want to derail this thread.
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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

My 172 started out with the 310 nose fork and 600x6 on the front right from the factory and 800x6 on the mains. I have left the big fork and 600x6 on the front but switched the mains up to 850x6. They reduce tiedown ring wear and make it easier to touch on the mains first.
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175 magnum wrote:My 172 started out with the 310 nose fork and 600x6 on the front right from the factory and 800x6 on the mains. I have left the big fork and 600x6 on the front but switched the mains up to 850x6. They reduce tiedown ring wear and make it easier to touch on the mains first.


Ok you stumped me on that one... What does the wheels have to do with wear on tie down rings?


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Bigger main tires make the tail sit up higher, letting you rotate more on takeoff without dragging the tail tie down
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Tom wrote:Bigger main tires make the tail sit up higher, letting you rotate more on takeoff without dragging the tail tie down


Oh yeah... Yeah don't have that problem much on the 56. The top of my tail is 10'-10" in the air. The strobe on the tail cone is about chest high. [emoji106]


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175 magnum wrote:My 172 started out with the 310 nose fork and 600x6 on the front right from the factory and 800x6 on the mains. I have left the big fork and 600x6 on the front but switched the mains up to 850x6. They reduce tiedown ring wear and make it easier to touch on the mains first.


Do you have some pictures?
Currently I have 600 x 6 in the nose and 800 x 6 in the mains.
Considering going to 850's
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Tom wrote:Bigger main tires make the tail sit up higher, letting you rotate more on takeoff without dragging the tail tie down


Oh yeah... Yeah don't have that problem much on the 56. The top of my tail is 10'-10" in the air. The strobe on the tail cone is about chest high. [emoji106]


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So far as I can remember, I've never dragged a tail tie down, ever. Just for the heckuvit, a couple of years ago I installed a "tail skid" Image($15 from Aircraft Spruce), thinking that with an aft CG and loaded with camping equipment, it might happen. Still haven't dragged the skid, either. But then, I don't try to do F-15 style take offs, either. The best soft field take offs only raise the nose tire barely off the surface.

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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

We're running 850x6 on the mains and 800x6 with the landis fork up front on our '62 182E. Definitely (!) tail low compared to the early models but the added shoulder room in the "wide body" make a huge difference in our quality of life. Haven't drug the tail yet...ImageImage
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Nice prop!


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That's a good looking 182!
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Motodave there are some pictures here. https://www.backcountrypilot.org/me/my- ... bumid=5062
Hoeschen, that is why I bought the 1956 182 tall gear for my c175 project plane. I found it was the tallest gear of any of the Cessnas and it will just bolt into my 175 experimental. Someone said the tall narrow gear was only used for one year because the planes were tippy in a cross wind. How do you find yours, do you just fly it like a 180 on a calm day?
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175 magnum wrote:Motodave there are some pictures here. https://www.backcountrypilot.org/me/my- ... bumid=5062
Hoeschen, that is why I bought the 1956 182 tall gear for my c175 project plane. I found it was the tallest gear of any of the Cessnas and it will just bolt into my 175 experimental. Someone said the tall narrow gear was only used for one year because the planes were tippy in a cross wind. How do you find yours, do you just fly it like a 180 on a calm day?


I wouldn't say it's tippy at all. And where I live I always have a cross wind. 20-30 mph winds is the norm here in Fargo. Can ride out one wheel landing in a crosswind like textbook. Only thing is getting used to the wheels sneaking up on you. They do seem mighty stiff as well, compared to tubular gear.


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Thanks for the info. I looked at my wheels once when travelling over rocks with the tube gear. To say they are multidirectional would be a mild understatement, but they are still connected to the plane so all is good.
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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

Hey BlindPilot...is that a standard nosewheel fork with the 6:00x6 or 206 fork?

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Hoeschen wrote:
SkylaneSam wrote:I also researched this thoroughly before pulling the trigger on tires for my 1956 182.
My final decision was 8.50 mains & 8.00 nose. This was perfect for my mission profile.
Here's the prices I paid back in 2011
The "package" from Hitchcock Aviation. $3890
(1) Landis fork kit
(2) 8.50 goodyear tires & tubes
(1) 8.00 goodyear tire & tube
(1) 6" wheel including bearings, races, seals.
Fed X 2 day shipping

Spacers came from Alaskan Bushwheel. $91

I spend 90% of my flying "off asphalt" and this takes me where I want to go.
Good luck, Sam


Do you have any photos and recall how
Much you needed to cut off the nose gear?




Go to http://www.airglas.com/ Complete pics of the shortening of the nose fork and exactly what your up against. I installed the kit myself on a saturday and flew it over for my AME to do the paperwork on the Monday. A press is handy, I froze the rod to -50 and still had to press the fork on. I have goodyears on mine 850 mains, 800 nose. Never needed wheel spacers to clear the calipers
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Mark Y. wrote:
Hoeschen wrote:
SkylaneSam wrote:I also researched this thoroughly before pulling the trigger on tires for my 1956 182.
My final decision was 8.50 mains & 8.00 nose. This was perfect for my mission profile.
Here's the prices I paid back in 2011
The "package" from Hitchcock Aviation. $3890
(1) Landis fork kit
(2) 8.50 goodyear tires & tubes
(1) 8.00 goodyear tire & tube
(1) 6" wheel including bearings, races, seals.
Fed X 2 day shipping

Spacers came from Alaskan Bushwheel. $91

I spend 90% of my flying "off asphalt" and this takes me where I want to go.
Good luck, Sam


Do you have any photos and recall how
Much you needed to cut off the nose gear?




Go to http://www.airglas.com/ Complete pics of the shortening of the nose fork and exactly what your up against. I installed the kit myself on a saturday and flew it over for my AME to do the paperwork on the Monday. A press is handy, I froze the rod to -50 and still had to press the fork on. I have goodyears on mine 850 mains, 800 nose. Never needed wheel spacers to clear the calipers


Hey Mark, did you go with the Desser smooth 8.50s? Also, did you upgrade to double pick brakes?
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Re: Path to 182 Bushwheel Suggestions?

When I bought the kit from Todd at Hitchcock I bought the ribbed Goodyears he recommended. When i need to replace the tires I might do the dressers, i don't really need ribbed tires and the smooths will hold less mud...lol. Double puck brakes are on the to do list, but a ways down below Acorn exhaust, new interior and engine monitor. My calipers are in good shape and stop well enough for my needs now.

I do have a 6x6 wheel/tire (brand new tire and wheel bearings), HD cessna fork with scissors and tube all ready to slide in if someone may be interested. This was on my 182 when i bought it.
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Hoeschen wrote:I want to take my bird to the next level of coolness for landing/camping at some grass
Strips. Useful load and airspeed are
Still a concern and I don't need to land on rock bars.

Looking for suggestions on what to get, where to get it and how much I should do myself vs. hire out.

I'm thinking a 6 or 7 on the nose and 7 or 8s on the mains? 8.50s all around seems overkill and too much weight. If I were to put 8.50 on nose might as well go ABWs on mains. Suggestions?

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If you’re doing grass strips I doubt you need anything. But if you want to be cool, Landis fork with 8.5-6 on the nose and 8.5-10 Bush Wheels on the mains with 4 ply tires. You’ll lose a tiny bit of speed due to the bigger nose tire. This is a great combo for pavement and off field if you decide to go that way some day.

Very nice looking 182.
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