a64pilot wrote:I haven't seen one for a while, but there is an aluminum concentric wheel that is designed to jack up a trailer by pulling the trailer forward on the wheel. If your landing gear had a place for the wheel to ride on it would work, I think. The wheel didn't weigh nearly as much as even a small bottle jack. My plan is a can of fix-a-flat. I haven't had to execute my plan, so I don't know if it would work or not.

I've seen those gizmos. I don't think they would work for my plane, but they might some. The can of fix a flat won't work if your valve stem gets sucked back out of reach. That is what happens to mine.
tom

The screws that hold on the center cap on my wheels are a little longer than normal and are sharpened on the end and protrude through the rim. Not sure why, but if my tire slips on the wheel the valve stem stays in the wheel because it rips from the tube. So far with the sharp screws, the tire hasn't slipped, but I haven't had a flat either. If or when I have that flat, I'll just be happy to keep the damage confined to the tube, and not the wing tip

a64pilot wrote:The screws that hold on the center cap on my wheels are a little longer than normal and are sharpened on the end and protrude through the rim. Not sure why.......

Sounds like it was done on purpose to prevent tire slippage. Maybe a previous owner?

zero.one.victor wrote:

a64pilot wrote:The screws that hold on the center cap on my wheels are a little longer than normal and are sharpened on the end and protrude through the rim. Not sure why.......

Sounds like it was done on purpose to prevent tire slippage. Maybe a previous owner?

I bet you are right. Motorcycle hill climbers used to use sheet metal screws through the rim to keep the tire from slipping on the rim. Now they have "rim locks".
tom

zero.one.victor wrote:

a64pilot wrote:The screws that hold on the center cap on my wheels are a little longer than normal and are sharpened on the end and protrude through the rim. Not sure why.......

Sounds like it was done on purpose to prevent tire slippage. Maybe a previous owner?

No the current one I used to do it motorcycle drag racing, we ran car rims and wrinkle wall slicks on the bigger bikes. Somebody smarter than me suggested using the three screw holes already there, just drilling through the rim and re-tapping it. I land usually on pavement, and sometimes on grass, sometimes rough. I don't run but about 14 lbs. in my 8.50' which isn't always enough to prevent tire slippage, so far the screws have done the trick.
I doubt you could get field approval for this.

That stuff in the bike tire demo is impressive. Having used Fix a Flat, I can tell you that it can cause a pretty out of balance tire. BUT, it got me back to civilization, where I could replace the tube.

Wup, does this stuff cause balance issues, and how do you get some?

MTV

Savannah-Tom wrote:

a64pilot wrote:I haven't seen one for a while, but there is an aluminum concentric wheel that is designed to jack up a trailer by pulling the trailer forward on the wheel. If your landing gear had a place for the wheel to ride on it would work, I think. The wheel didn't weigh nearly as much as even a small bottle jack. My plan is a can of fix-a-flat. I haven't had to execute my plan, so I don't know if it would work or not.

I've seen those gizmos. I don't think they would work for my plane, but they might some. The can of fix a flat won't work if your valve stem gets sucked back out of reach. That is what happens to mine.
tom

If you're going to carry something how about an actual jack? A crank up scissors jack that comes standard on my Chevy van is now in the hangar for that purpose. It only weighs about 2 pounds. Most cars nowadays have similar type jacks.

Come on BM a jack would be too easy. I rarely carry tools, the exception is if I'm ferrying an airplanes into South America or something, and those are bigger airplane and weight isn't as much of an issue.
On the same type of note, how many of you guy's that fly over Arizona and those type of places carry a 5 gl. jug of water with you? Just curious.

More importantly, with SOME airplanes, it's difficult to find a place to jack on the airplane without damaging something. Airplane specific techniques are required, and some of them get pretty scary.

MTV

mtv wrote:More importantly, with SOME airplanes, it's difficult to find a place to jack on the airplane without damaging something. Airplane specific techniques are required, and some of them get pretty scary.

MTV

The way I have to jack up the 210 for retract tests is darn scary. Surely there has to be a better way

To a64 who is curious about water over the desert. I do not yet know how to drag quotes.

I fly from San Jose direct to McCall Idaho across quite a bit of desert. Sometimes I go by way of Windyschmucka, still more of hot dry terrain, even if a lot of it was originally named after lush Hawaii.
I carry three six-packs of small bottles of water all the time. One for each of the three days that are alleged to be the average time to "rescue" if I need to put the plane down.

The 180 driver I sometimes travel with used to carry three one gallon plastic containers until two of them split on a turbulent trip. We lost ALL of the two gallons.
SO, we decided to divide and conquer the potential lost water problem ever since. Yes, I was a Boy Scout.

how do you get some?

I stopped by the local bicycle shop yesterday to see if they had any. $14.99 for a bottle that would do about 30 bike tires.

Jon

Uh, slight problem.....some of us actually live more than a mile from a bike shop . Actually, more than a number of miles. And, when I think of bike shops, I think H-D. Maybe they carry the stuff, but it'd cost $400 a tube....

What is the stuff called, and is there somewhere you can order it-like on line?

I tried doing a Google search for "slimy shit that goes in bike tires" and I don't think I want to describe what came up.

Okay, okay, I didn't actually do that, and I'm not going to, either .

Name of "stuff" por favor?
MTV

Stan's tire and rim sealant

http://www.notubes.com/product_info.php/products_id/44

Jon

Great, thanks....Okay, I had to edit this post. I scrolled through the information from the manufacturer, and see that you have to remove the valve stem, and inject the stuff.

Anyone know why they specifically, and in several places, note that this is for tubeless tires?? Would there be a problem using it in Tube type tires? I can't imagine why it wouldn't work in tube type tires, myself.

I'd think one would want to jack up the plane first, rather than just deflating, adding the stuff, then re-inflating. Otherwise, you could pinch a tube, methinks.

Anyone actually used this stuff in tube type tires?

MTV