Nizina wrote:

Hammer wrote:Nizina...your neighbors have some serious bad luck.

I guess I don't see the down side of folks who actually believe they can fight a bear with a shovel giving it a try...preferably before successfully breeding.

Well, they are both Cub pilots...

Sooo...does that count for, or against their luck?

Hammer wrote:

Nizina wrote:

Hammer wrote:Nizina...your neighbors have some serious bad luck.

I guess I don't see the down side of folks who actually believe they can fight a bear with a shovel giving it a try...preferably before successfully breeding.

Well, they are both Cub pilots...

Sooo...does that count for, or against their luck?

Means they've probably got enough sense not to take a swing at a bear with a self defense shovel.

Here's a option to go along with the self defense shovel,

https://www.galvatronflashlights.com/tacticalpen

Mapleflt wrote:Here's a option to go along with the self defense shovel,

https://www.galvatronflashlights.com/tacticalpen

And they are 75% off for a limited time!!

Might as well throw in whips, throwing stars, sword canes, nunchucks, and .380 handguns while we're at it...

My 13 y/o son wants one of those bad. He chops the shit out of things outside. Medical clinic is less than a mile away.

Boys are defined by the size of their toys, the nearby medical clinic is a bonus at any age

And here is a guy that was clearing trail close to his cabin, had bear spray, and likely had tools with him that would have been more effective against a bear than the "defense shovel". He paid the price.

Also, just this week, a neighbor reported emptying a can of bear spray on a black bear all the way to a face encounter, but the bear remained unfazed.

A pistol is my minimum choice when working in the back country.

https://www.ktva.com/story/42465346/adf ... -near-hope

dogpilot wrote:Back in the bolt action rifle days of the Great War, there where many stories of folks duking it out with shovels in the trenches. I dunno if I would be inclined to take on North American meat eaters, like bears, with it. Perhaps a variation of placing a shot in the calf of the other guy might be in order. A sound like a dooong, would alert the bear of a potential meal and ignore you.

I seem to recall watching "All Quiet on the Western Front" and seeing JohnBoy (of waltons fame) nearly decapitate someone with a trench shovel. Don't quote me - could be a different movie, but it's been etched in my brain for nearly 45 years now. Gave me a healthy respect for shovels in other's people hands!

Back in the early eighties, Bill Pinnell, who was a legendary bear guide on Kodiak, received an inquiry from a gent back east, who wanted to contract with Bill and his partner Morris Talifson, for a “Primitive Bear Hunt” on Kodiak Island. These two crusty old characters (as I recall, Billie was around 90 at the time, and Morris was pushing 80) thought the whole concept of a “primitive bear hunt” with “primitive weapons” was simply hilarious.

Of course, the prospective client was probably thinking along the lines of bow and arrow, but Bill and Morris had a very professional looking brochure made up (all in spoof) which advertised primitive bear hunts on Kodiak. Prospective clients were to bring their own loin cloths, but P and T would supply a spear if the airlines didn’t like the look of the clients weapon of choice.

The brochure went into great detail about the hunt and was hilarious....the two old timers spent most of a winter working on it, with many suggestions from locals.

References to ensure the clients “affairs” were in order prior to arrival, the appropriate style of loin cloth and head band to bring, and there being no need of course to make round trip airline reservations. The guides offered to provide a small box to return the remains in, if there were any, etc.

Unfortunately, in one of my moves I lost my copy. But I can still remember sitting in Bill’s kitchen in Olga Bay, laughing my butt off reading it the first time.

Apparently, the gent who proposed the hunt originally hunted with another guide....

MTV

Bought a Russian military shovel in titanium because it is so compact and light and it chops wood pretty well. After seeing this one, I feel like I was schnookered. Mine does not have anywhere near the heft to split a bear skull nor does it have a bottle cap opener. I guess that if I got lost in the wilds, I'd die because my .45 doesn't have a bottle cap opener, either.

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mtv wrote:Back in the early eighties, Bill Pinnell, who was a legendary bear guide on Kodiak, received an inquiry from a gent back east, who wanted to contract with Bill and his partner Morris Talifson, for a “Primitive Bear Hunt” on Kodiak Island. These two crusty old characters (as I recall, Billie was around 90 at the time, and Morris was pushing 80) thought the whole concept of a “primitive bear hunt” with “primitive weapons” was simply hilarious.

Of course, the prospective client was probably thinking along the lines of bow and arrow, but Bill and Morris had a very professional looking brochure made up (all in spoof) which advertised primitive bear hunts on Kodiak. Prospective clients were to bring their own loin cloths, but P and T would supply a spear if the airlines didn’t like the look of the clients weapon of choice.

The brochure went into great detail about the hunt and was hilarious....the two old timers spent most of a winter working on it, with many suggestions from locals.

References to ensure the clients “affairs” were in order prior to arrival, the appropriate style of loin cloth and head band to bring, and there being no need of course to make round trip airline reservations. The guides offered to provide a small box to return the remains in, if there were any, etc.

Unfortunately, in one of my moves I lost my copy. But I can still remember sitting in Bill’s kitchen in Olga Bay, laughing my butt off reading it the first time.

Apparently, the gent who proposed the hunt originally hunted with another guide....

MTV

I would love to have seen that. Sounds like my kind of guys.

Quis wrote:.... nor does it have a bottle cap opener. I guess that if I got lost in the wilds, I'd die because my .45 doesn't have a bottle cap opener, either.

Another advantage of flying a 180.

This shovel is really dangerous! Thats why you need a proper armor using it, just in case you can hurt yourself. So looking for armor pay attention on https://primearmor.us/body-armor/