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Skywagon & C170 Main Landing Gear Dampers

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Skywagon & C170 Main Landing Gear Dampers

FYI: https://acmeaerofab.com/cessna-damper/
The website lists their Black Ops unit as STC'd, so they have experience dealing with FAA Engineering.
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Re: Skywagon & C170 Main Landing Gear Dampers

A great idea, I could see this as very suitable for ski operations as well. Unfortunately the design eliminates the uses of most straight skis and wheel skis completely.
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iPat wrote:FYI: https://acmeaerofab.com/cessna-damper/
The website lists their Black Ops unit as STC'd, so they have experience dealing with FAA Engineering.
(I have no relationship.)


I really like their Supercub suspension, but the Cessna installation looks like a solution searching for a problem.
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Re: Skywagon & C170 Main Landing Gear Dampers

As with all things aviation, mission mission mission.
These things are the bomb (are the cool kids still saying that?) If your mission is the 'chop and plop' STOL contest world... no really... the one thing C1XX gear lacks is suspension.
Having said that, if your mission involves flying to a destination that requires a sat phone to coordinate a helicopter rescue (should you screw the pooch) then a kinder approach (no pun intended) should be executed. And in that case, a delicate throttle hand, a set of 29-31 ABW'S and 22lbs. LESS unsprung weight, is going to yield a better performance... every single time.

YMMV,
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Re: Skywagon & C170 Main Landing Gear Dampers

iPat wrote:FYI: https://acmeaerofab.com/cessna-damper/
The website lists their Black Ops unit as STC'd, so they have experience dealing with FAA Engineering.
(I have no relationship.)


It's my understanding from discussions on other sites that the Black Op's dam,pers are STC'd for cubs,
but their set-up for 170/180/185 is "norsee'd".
You can google what that means.
Allegedly the fact that
1) it is easily removable, and
2) it is not "failure critical" (if it breaks or falls off, the airplane still has the standard gear legs in place)
allows them to be installed without an STC.
Not sure I buy into that, but that's what people say.
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NORSEE'd Cessna Main Landing Gear Dampers?

I've no knowledge if Acme is pursuing NORSEE approval, but as of a few minutes ago their Cessna dampers are not on the list:
https://drs.faa.gov/browse/NORSEE/doctypeDetails
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