+1 meat.

rshannon wrote:RE Obama posts:

Why is it that some people feel their own political opinions -- especially those unrelated to aviation -- are appropriate to an aviation forum? It certainly doesn't help back country pilots, nor the cause of expanding support for and understanding of general aviation.

Keep the irrelevant partisanship to yourselves, boys. It doesn't belong here.

Ron

Wow.... I rarely if ever let my posts in a non political forum go politics.... But I can't imagine what kind of balls it takes to let your first post ever on a forum, be one that is telling regulars how and what they should post...

Rshannon, I beat the "no politics" thing like a rented dog normally but sometimes funny is funny for everyone. In this case I thought it was ok, especially since the fun pokers had trouble with spelling, and we all stayed on topic pretty well. Ya gotta pick your battles. The right threads will be put in the Hot Air forum as a courtesy for readers and to prevent Google indexing. Those who have a problem with that policy, too bad.

What you should ask yourself is "if I dislike this, is it wise to bring it back up after the thread has been pure airplane talk for 4 pages?" There's irony in there.

And I kept my big mouth shut

Meat Servo wrote:Frankly, a little banter and politics doesn't bother me. I looked at your first ever post and thought maybe you misplaced a reply. (And edited it with a "my bad" btw) The original thread misspelled turbine as turban so somebody took a jab. Big deal. What’s next we can't argue about wheel landings and 3 points? I quit frequenting a couple other forums because of the kindergarten PC police. Maybe I'm out of touch and that's where we are in aviation but I'd prefer to hang with the big kids who can have an adult conversation without crying about who's politician is getting picked on today...

Rob wrote:

rshannon wrote:RE Obama posts:

Why is it that some people feel their own political opinions -- especially those unrelated to aviation -- are appropriate to an aviation forum? It certainly doesn't help back country pilots, nor the cause of expanding support for and understanding of general aviation.

Keep the irrelevant partisanship to yourselves, boys. It doesn't belong here.

Ron

Wow.... I rarely if ever let my posts in a non political forum go politics.... But I can't imagine what kind of balls it takes to let your first post ever on a forum, be one that is telling regulars how and what they should post...

Man,

I'm starting to feel terribly for miss spelling that word. I'm sorry all. Wish I could say 'twon't happen again but I'm not the speller.

madpilot wrote:Man,

I'm starting to feel terribly for miss spelling that word. I'm sorry all. Wish I could say 'twon't happen again but I'm not the speller.

No sweat MP, some of us.... most of us don't spell worth a darn either.

madpilot wrote:Man,

I'm starting to feel terribly for miss spelling that word. I'm sorry all. Wish I could say 'twon't happen again but I'm not the speller.

Reminds me of that Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Larry submitted the obituary for his wife's aunt, that started with "Beloved aunt..." and the paper printed it with a typo.

Thanks to the "How To: ignore a user" thread, I was able to prevent fix this problem myself. Tainted a pretty good convo.

The SM 1019 has my vote, but a Soloy on amphibs would be a close 2nd

Yoooze guyz makes me laugh sumtimez! No matter the spellin'.
I ain't a good speller neither, just a good turbun driver.
I thought the shiznit wuz funny miself.

Here'z my breakdown on this subgect;
And I mean of airplanes that are actually in some numbers, certified, ready to register, insure and fly tomorrow.

Small - Turbine Maule

Medium - Pilatus Porter

Large - Turbine Single Otter, PT-6 unless you're working at altitude then go Garrett.

Extra Large - Twin Otter with at least -27's if not -34's.



Dreamy shit that's hard to come by or approve or both;

Small - Italian Turbine Bird Dog

Medium - Helio Stallion with a -34

Large - ?? Prolly still the Single Otter, hard to beat. ??

Extra Large - PZL M28 Skytruck, mostly because it's about the size of a Twin Otter with -65's!

JUMBO - DeHavilland Buffalo

Im going to try and get the Tiger PT6-206 onto your Dreamy Shit list. Ive dreamed of it for a while. All my planes are already light and have some of the best Stol mods so with that Horse power I should be able to put on a show.

VJR,
Git 'er done and bring it out this fall. We''l pack it with camping gear and beer and go to the woods to see how she does!

There we go now we are back on topic. So with all these chocies what are the advantages of say a turbine maule over piston maule?

The fact that it goes like a raped ape.
You do the math, put about 420 horsepower on the same little fabric covered fuselage that usually has 180, 210, 235, 0r 260 horsepower and then make the prop be able to make air go forward as well..........

Of course for every action there is a reaction!

They are waaaay more money, they can be fueled at fewer places, they can't be propped, and insurance is going to be waaay more for more than one reason, currency is probably fairly important so that also increases your cost of operation.

And, lowflyin failed to mention the fact that the turbine Maule is going to burn almost double the amount of fuel as a recip powered one. But, it doesn't carry any more fuel. Hence, LOTS more fuel stops.

The same is true of most small turbine powered aircraft, actually. The fuel burn of turbine engines at low altitudes is always high. Lots of HP though.

And, Lowflyin, you failed to list the DHC-2 Mark III Turbo Beaver. Preferably with a better version of the PT-6 than the -20A.....

MTV

And, lowflyin failed to mention the fact that the turbine Maule is going to burn almost double the amount of fuel as a recip powered one. But, it doesn't carry any more fuel. Hence, LOTS more fuel stops.

The same is true of most small turbine powered aircraft, actually. The fuel burn of turbine engines at low altitudes is always high. Lots of HP though.

And, Lowflyin, you failed to list the DHC-2 Mark III Turbo Beaver. Preferably with a better version of the PT-6 than the -20A.....

MTV

You are correct sir the turbine Beaver with a -135 or -34 is quite the little performing sled.

lowflyin'G3 wrote:You are correct sir the turbine Beaver with a -135 or -34 is quite the little performing sled.

Thanks gents

G3,
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I'll leave the JATO and take a 130J long model.