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What's the advantage of 10" Wheels?

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Crzyivan13 wrote:26" Goodyears on 6" wheel. 8 psi i was guessing. Worked fine lightly loaded. Not so much with a load.


When we run 26's on the Cub we won't go lower than 14 psi.
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Mauleguy wrote:Quote from above: "Yeah...I worded that very poorly. I'm talking about a wheel that is one piece with a bead locker. If I had a set of 10" wheels I could modify them to add bead lockers but since I don't why not have a set of wheels made. A local machinist I've deal with on some jet boat stuff is about $60/hr. Based on my perceived complexity of a wheel vs the past projects I ballparked 10hrs per wheel. $500/wheel for material (10" diameter 12" long extrusion). $60/hr x 10hr + $500 = $1100/wheel; pretty much the same cost as a 10" ABI wheel but my estimate could, and likely is, way off."


I can tell you from my own experience that your estimate is way off. The materials to do a set with 12" billet 6060-t6, bearing, dust seals, washers, bolts for the wheels were around 850.00 if my memory serves. The labor was well over your 10 hours because I was charging that same rate in 2005-2006 (60 per hr.) when I was building the wheels and I was just making shop rate. You can figure out the hours by subtracting the cost of materials.


Thanks again Mauleguy! That info is again very useful. I'm not sure I'd say my estimate is way off but you are right it is off. $2500 - $850(material)= $1650. $1650/2 = $825/wheel in labor. That's 13.75hrs labor per wheel.

C185D wrote:I think the Bead Locks are unnecessary for aircraft, you could just put screws in the stock wheel bead. Or glue the tire to the rim. Before the ABWs came out a lot of guys here in AK would screw 29in Airhawks to GarAero adapters. There are still a few planes up here with aluminum car wheels with Hoosier racing slicks.

I think the difference is the Airhawks are a stiff tire and most guys are running them with a tube. Put the soft 31" desser on a wheel with no tube and run it at low pressure and I think there could be issues especially with slanted landing spots and turning takeoffs.
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I already had the programs for the wheels because I had made them for myself, so that does not include the time to design and program the parts. 4 CNC Lathe programs and 4 CNC mill programs. Your machinist will have to work pretty hard for his money to come in at the pricing I gave for 1 off wheel set.
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Mauleguy wrote:I already had the programs for the wheels because I had made them for myself, so that does not include the time to design and program the parts. 4 CNC Lathe programs and 4 CNC mill programs. Your machinist will have to work pretty hard for his money to come in at the pricing I gave for 1 off wheel set.


Your right. The work they have done previously they just used a manual mill because the projects were simple. I guess I won't know what they say till I take them the drawings and ask them how much to build it. That might be a while, I've got to get my plane built and flying before I start messing around with having wheels made.
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Crzyivan13 wrote:26" Goodyears on 6" wheel. 8 psi i was guessing. Worked fine lightly loaded. Not so much with a load.


When we run 26's on the Cub we won't go lower than 14 psi.


Admittedly, I was too low. I think I was normally running 10-12 psi. Ew on that airplane was around 690 lbs in that configuration. It worked pretty well at that weight and pressure but the goodyears were too stiff for an airplane that light. When I switched to 29" Bushwheels I was in cushy pillow heaven at 4 psi.
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Re: What's the advantage of 10

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Crzyivan13 wrote:26" Goodyears on 6" wheel. 8 psi i was guessing. Worked fine lightly loaded. Not so much with a load.


When we run 26's on the Cub we won't go lower than 14 psi.


Admittedly, I was too low. I think I was normally running 10-12 psi. Ew on that airplane was around 690 lbs in that configuration. It worked pretty well at that weight and pressure but the goodyears were too stiff for an airplane that light. When I switched to 29" Bushwheels I was in cushy pillow heaven at 4 psi.


I have little screws locking my beads with our 26" Goodyear tires. They are only about 3/16" into the tire.
I have run them as low as 8psi at 2700 lbs and have no slippage, and I know others who run them significantly lower pressures like a bushwheel. Of course they still have that stiffer side-wall.
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