We are a group of Southern California back country pilots who conduct monthly accuracy dead stick practice on any of our many dry lakes.

Anyone who would like to join us for a practice session is welcome.

Those who have joined us so far have said it was definately an eye-opener. Their first attempts had them touching down 200-300 yards short. After subsequent tries they were touching down within plus/minus 100 feet.

We also practice engine failure on departure with different techniques for each pilot/aircraft to help in quickly responding and choosing turn back or straight ahead and the best method of doing that.

Finally we employ different techniques for getting the shortest take of distance.

This is not a competition between pilots. It is practice for emergency situations BEFORE the real emergency.

For more details please read pages 80-83 in September's EAA Sport Aviation magazine.

John M

Hey John. Good to see you on here, This practice is great and has proven to be valuable. Come one come all.

Practicing accuracy landings without power is a good thing, even at your friendly local hard-surfaced airport with 10,000' runways. Years ago when I was instructing, we had regular spot landing contests in Laramie on Wednesday evenings, with a flour line drawn across the runway about a thousand feet past the beginning--just in case someone landed short. The rules were simple: once you pull the power, no adding power; any combination of flaps and slips, DQ if you land before the flour line, closest to the flour line but after it buys the beer.

One evening, a young fellow, about 17 years old, came out who was visiting his grandparents in Laramie. After watching several do their thing, he asked if he could try it. Problem: he only had about 15 hours and although his instructor had said he was ready to solo, he hadn't yet. I volunteered to fly with him, with the others making me promise I would not coach him or take the controls.

Well, I didn't need to. The kid won that night, and of course it became my responsibility to buy the beer.

Cary

Used to be a night shuttle of empty Pacific Western 737's between the Edmonton International Airport and a few miles away the city airport CYXD (now bulldozed). Pilots would challenge themselves to just two throttle moves, fully on for takeoff, and then fully off for landing. The spirit of BCP!

I guess there's been enough deadstick airliner landings to give some support to the experience. Don't know if anyone else did this, probably not.

Welcome John! You guys should dead stick into the High Sierra Fly-in next month!!

Sounds like this could be a fun spot landing event!

Does it require a motor? Those things are really noisy

I'm probably alot better in this, than the wagon. but I'd love to join you. What DLB?

Glidergeek wrote:Does it require a motor? Those things are really noisy

I'm probably alot better in this, than the wagon. but I'd love to join you. What DLB?

I'd really like ten hours of training in one of those, it just seams to be invaluable. Maybe in the next couple years I'll manage to fit it in.

As somebody always transmitted, when we were taking fire, "Good training for the real thing."

Karmutzen wrote:Used to be a night shuttle of empty Pacific Western 737's between the Edmonton International Airport and a few miles away the city airport CYXD (now bulldozed). Pilots would challenge themselves to just two throttle moves, fully on for takeoff, and then fully off for landing. The spirit of BCP!

I guess there's been enough deadstick airliner landings to give some support to the experience. Don't know if anyone else did this, probably not.

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With the horrible statistic of 75% of emergency landings without power touching down beyond the middle of the landing site, accuracy landings without power need to be practiced often. Also landing on the numbers every time with power helps us visualize the proper directed course to the numbers or desired touchdown point.

Breakfast tomorrow at BigBear Ca about 9:15am then practice at Soggy Dry Lake for any that want to join in. Com freq 136.100

Big John wrote:Breakfast tomorrow at BigBear Ca about 9:15am then practice at Soggy Dry Lake for any that want to join in. Com freq 136.100

Working you'll get a better turnout on Saturday

We will set one up in the future on a weekend, Have 5 so far for tomorrow, last minute plan.

Was wondering if the details could be posted here for those of us who don't have access to that issue of the EAA magazine?

I don't know if I cane copy and past this article on this forum, but I will try to send the PDF attachment to your email address.

John