A google search tells me that this little airport was closed for 10 years but is now open. The new chart I just got has an R by it. So I guess it is restricted. I am wondering what the restrictions are. I am hoping that means only Straight Tail 182"s can use it.

It's "technically" open since it's on public land within a national park but I can assure your chances of getting a PPR to land there are essentially ZERO regardless of the make & model of airplane.

It’s a great looking strip, I overflew a few years ago. Shame.

qmdv wrote: I am wondering what the restrictions are. I am hoping that means only Straight Tail 182"s can use it.

It is for emergency use only. A shame though, as it is a great location if you want to visit Banff.

Chris

My first adventure in my PA 12 was to Banff in 1981. I remember landing and a couple of guys were waiting for the wind to die down at Kicking Horse Pass. My cousin rode with me along with tent and other stuff with the original 108 Lycoming. Fortunate I am still here to tell about it. Crossing into Canada at Willow Creek north of Havre MT there was just a trailer house on a gravel road and a gravel airstrip. The guy came out and asked if we had any guns and not much of a check out cause he could tell we were okay. Coming home I crossed at Peace Gardens in North Dakota. Landed and after waiting quite awhile, walked over to the customs toll booth where the cars were and told them I was here. Nobody yelled or anything.

Mapleflt wrote:It's "technically" open since it's on public land within a national park but I can assure your chances of getting a PPR to land there are essentially ZERO regardless of the make & model of airplane.

Not sure what PPR means

PPR = prior permission required

qmdv wrote:

Mapleflt wrote:It's "technically" open since it's on public land within a national park but I can assure your chances of getting a PPR to land there are essentially ZERO regardless of the make & model of airplane.

Not sure what PPR means

Prosthetic Penis Recommended

Zzz wrote:

qmdv wrote:

Mapleflt wrote:It's "technically" open since it's on public land within a national park but I can assure your chances of getting a PPR to land there are essentially ZERO regardless of the make & model of airplane.

Not sure what PPR means

Prosthetic Penis Recommended

I hope admin is not monitoring your posts. Getting personal can get you suspended.

Canada National Parks Act wrote:(4) It is prohibited for a person to conduct a take-off or landing of an aircraft in the park set out in item 14, column I, of the schedule, other than to land in the case of a diversion or other emergency situation.

(5) In the case of a landing referred to in paragraph (3)(b) or subsection (4), the person must

(a) notify the superintendent as soon as feasible after landing of

(i) the fact that they have landed at a take-off and landing location set out in item 13 or 14, column II, of the schedule, as the case may be, and

(ii) the nature of the diversion or other emergency situation; and

(b) obtain the superintendent’s authorization before take-off

Banff is item 14.

Awhile back they wanted to close Banff and Jasper airstrips. They lost the fight, but made Banff emergency use only (the argument for keeping them open) while Jasper had some planes based there, so permit holders were allowed to use it as well as emergency use.

Generally landing in Canadian National Parks is not permitted (sadly, they had some gorgeous scenery, some of which was used by planes in the past). Fourteen parks (including Banff and Jasper) have exceptions to land at specific airstrips, lakes, water-only, or anywhere but there is only one airstrip in a National Park that does not require a permit.

Marc wrote:

Canada National Parks Act wrote:(4) It is prohibited for a person to conduct a take-off or landing of an aircraft in the park set out in item 14, column I, of the schedule, other than to land in the case of a diversion or other emergency situation.

(5) In the case of a landing referred to in paragraph (3)(b) or subsection (4), the person must

(a) notify the superintendent as soon as feasible after landing of

(i) the fact that they have landed at a take-off and landing location set out in item 13 or 14, column II, of the schedule, as the case may be, and

(ii) the nature of the diversion or other emergency situation; and

(b) obtain the superintendent’s authorization before take-off

Banff is item 14.

Awhile back they wanted to close Banff and Jasper airstrips. They lost the fight, but made Banff emergency use only (the argument for keeping them open) while Jasper had some planes based there, so permit holders were allowed to use it as well as emergency use.

Generally landing in Canadian National Parks is not permitted (sadly, they had some gorgeous scenery, some of which was used by planes in the past). Fourteen parks (including Banff and Jasper) have exceptions to land at specific airstrips, lakes, water-only, or anywhere but there is only one airstrip in a National Park that does not require a permit.

If you look in the CFS private aircraft can land in Jasper but you have to pay the Park fee. Many people land there call a Uber and go for lunch

Huh, not what I was expecting



Interesting, it seems it says PPR is required but only for takeoff?




Also not sure what they are protecting here, seems it’s by a friggin freeway, not like we are talking un disturbed tranquility here




Ahh the pesky administrative state

David K wrote:

Marc wrote:

Canada National Parks Act wrote:(4) It is prohibited for a person to conduct a take-off or landing of an aircraft in the park set out in item 14, column I, of the schedule, other than to land in the case of a diversion or other emergency situation.

(5) In the case of a landing referred to in paragraph (3)(b) or subsection (4), the person must

(a) notify the superintendent as soon as feasible after landing of

(i) the fact that they have landed at a take-off and landing location set out in item 13 or 14, column II, of the schedule, as the case may be, and

(ii) the nature of the diversion or other emergency situation; and

(b) obtain the superintendent’s authorization before take-off

Banff is item 14.

Awhile back they wanted to close Banff and Jasper airstrips. They lost the fight, but made Banff emergency use only (the argument for keeping them open) while Jasper had some planes based there, so permit holders were allowed to use it as well as emergency use.

Generally landing in Canadian National Parks is not permitted (sadly, they had some gorgeous scenery, some of which was used by planes in the past). Fourteen parks (including Banff and Jasper) have exceptions to land at specific airstrips, lakes, water-only, or anywhere but there is only one airstrip in a National Park that does not require a permit.

If you look in the CFS private aircraft can land in Jasper but you have to pay the Park fee. Many people land there call a Uber and go for lunch

We landed at Jasper, got a cab to town, rented a car, and then spent a week touring Jasper and Banff on the ground. It happened to be the centennial or something for Parks Canada, so there was no admission fee. I don’t think it would be too much trouble otherwise. No PPR.

CAVU wrote:

David K wrote:

Marc wrote:

Canada National Parks Act wrote:(4) It is prohibited for a person to conduct a take-off or landing of an aircraft in the park set out in item 14, column I, of the schedule, other than to land in the case of a diversion or other emergency situation.

(5) In the case of a landing referred to in paragraph (3)(b) or subsection (4), the person must

(a) notify the superintendent as soon as feasible after landing of

(i) the fact that they have landed at a take-off and landing location set out in item 13 or 14, column II, of the schedule, as the case may be, and

(ii) the nature of the diversion or other emergency situation; and

(b) obtain the superintendent’s authorization before take-off

Banff is item 14.

Awhile back they wanted to close Banff and Jasper airstrips. They lost the fight, but made Banff emergency use only (the argument for keeping them open) while Jasper had some planes based there, so permit holders were allowed to use it as well as emergency use.

Generally landing in Canadian National Parks is not permitted (sadly, they had some gorgeous scenery, some of which was used by planes in the past). Fourteen parks (including Banff and Jasper) have exceptions to land at specific airstrips, lakes, water-only, or anywhere but there is only one airstrip in a National Park that does not require a permit.

If you look in the CFS private aircraft can land in Jasper but you have to pay the Park fee. Many people land there call a Uber and go for lunch

We landed at Jasper, got a cab to town, rented a car, and then spent a week touring Jasper and Banff on the ground. It happened to be the centennial or something for Parks Canada, so there was no admission fee. I don’t think it would be too much trouble otherwise. No PPR.

Where is Jasper. I looked on a new chart and did not find. Also I saw that there is a lot of helicopter traffic in the area. Tourist helicopters buzz around like a bunch of hornets

Banff, AB CYBA is and emergency only landing airport so therefore no PPR for "landing" require. The PPR is required for a take-off and you had better be prepared to "explain" the nature of your emergency landing.

Oh and I google earthed Jasper. Looks like a cool place. Looks like I need the next chart up

Mapleflt wrote:Banff, AB CYBA is and emergency only landing airport so therefore no PPR for "landing" require. The PPR is required for a take-off and you had better be prepared to "explain" the emergency landing.

I bet if they do not like your emergency they will not give permission. Like the Utah Highway Patrol they probably make you pull the wings and have you truck it out.

qmdv wrote:

Mapleflt wrote:Banff, AB CYBA is and emergency only landing airport so therefore no PPR for "landing" require. The PPR is required for a take-off and you had better be prepared to "explain" the emergency landing.

I bet if they do not like your emergency they will not give permission. Like the Utah Highway Patrol they probably make you pull the wings and have you truck it out.

A very high probability of that happening I'd say.

Mapleflt wrote:Banff, AB CYBA is and emergency only landing airport so therefore no PPR for "landing" require. The PPR is required for a take-off and you had better be prepared to "explain" the nature of your emergency landing.

What’s the fine for taking off without permission?

I mean if I had to land for weather, and there was a good chance the government would damage my aircraft, would it not be there to “ask for forgiveness vs permission”?