Backcountry Pilot • Border X KCLM (Port Angeles) to CYQQ (Comox)?

Border X KCLM (Port Angeles) to CYQQ (Comox)?

Not necessarily information about airstrips or airports, but more general info about a greater area or a route of flight.
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Re: Border X KCLM (Port Angeles) to CYQQ (Comox)?

Halestorm wrote:Dangit Cary, you're going to let the special secret that is Desolation Sound out of the ol bag!

I'm one of those guys that is fortunate enough to be paid to fly beavers and turbo-otters around that area every summer, it is a truly magical place.

Princess Louisa is amazing, always glassy water, Gorge Harbor, Cortez Island, Big Bay, Dent Island Resort, Refuge Cove, Prideaux Haven, Port Hardy, Sullivan Bay, Port MacNeil, out to the west side with Bamfield and Tofino. Heck, scrub the Alaska trip, just spend your summer in BC! They got better WX and things are cheaper!


Hi Halestorm,

It seems like the Pacific Canadian Coast is a life time of adventure. I have to fly the wife up from Hawaii (Alaska Airlines), so I thought Ketchikan would be a good pick up stop for her. But, just cruising in Canada on a float plane for a couple of weeks has definitely crossed my mind! Flying a strong float plane is an unreal feeling and you guys have paradise.

Mahalo!
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Re: Border X KCLM (Port Angeles) to CYQQ (Comox)?

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Cary wrote:If you decide to take some time in Nanaimo, it's a wonderful place. Some 14 years ago, I had to weather over there in my 19' boat for several days (read about it in my book, "The Ultimate Small Boat Adventure", still available at Barnes & Noble, Amazon, etc.) --the Georgia Strait was too rough to cross. We've been there by larger boat several times since then. Last summer, the day after we got there and had planned to go on to the Gulf Islands, Marilyn asked if we could stay over another night. Sure--and then we stayed over a third night. We really love the town.

FWIW, best fish and chips anywhere (I really mean "anywhere") are at Trollers, a little place literally on the docks in the boat basin. Also good food across at the dock at Protection Island--a tiny ferry boat makes several runs every day. And of course, you can't go to Nanaimo without getting a delicious Nanaimo Bar, a chocolate, creme, coconut concoction that will make you gain weight with one bite. There's a terrific intra-city bus service--I don't know if it goes to the airport, which is actually about 7 miles south of the city. On a rainy day there 3 years ago, we spent the day touring on the bus.

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Hi Cary,

Thank you for the insight to Nanaimo. I known the Coastal weather may keep me in various places longer than planned. What is your book about? I love sailing and adventure stories.

Three rules I have learned on the Coast; (1) Don't push the weather, (2) Don't push the weather and (3) Don't push the weather.

Do you know of a Canadian named Brent Swain? He designed and helped build the hull on my 37' cutter that is moored in Hawaii. Very talented shipwright.

Cheers from Kirra, Australia Mate!

The book is about my solo (with dog) trip in my 19' Sea Ray from Port Orchard, WA, through the San Juan Islands of Washington and BC and the Gulf Islands of BC, up north to Princess Louisa, Campbell River, Desolation Sound, etc., about 1000 miles and 28 days, sort of a glorified log. Lots of fun, one of those "once in a lifetime" adventures. I really fell in love with the whole area--incredible scenery (especially Princess Louisa, which is only accessible by boat or float plane--a place not to be missed and worth a diversion). And with the exception only of the twits that run the Bathgate marina store at Egmont, BC, who were both decidedly the grumpiest imaginable, a land populated by superbly friendly and helpful people.

To keep this in the flying genre, because of having to wait for the Strait to calm down some over several days, I spent hours and hours watching the floatplanes of both Kenmore and Baxter come in and out of the Nanaimo boat basin. Of course, they come into almost every other marina, too, but they're like bees to the nest there. I'm pretty sure it was then that I said to myself, "Cary, you've got to learn to fly one of those things!"

Since most of the marinas are very sheltered, even when the more open water is ruffled up, a float plane could be safely landed at most of them. I wouldn't even think about trying it on the open water, which from my boating experiences up there is more than almost any type of seaplane could handle. My Sea Ray handled it only because I'm such a superb boatman :lol: , but it was a lot easier in the trawlers we have chartered, a 32' Nordic Tug and a 36' Grand Banks. Even when relatively calm, most of the open water has 2-3' chop.

Cary


Cool. Very interesting scenarios. It is a rough ocean "up" there! Very rough and sometimes vicious.

The Canadian locals I known of like to build in steel, when it comes to seaworthy boats. I have seen pictures of some nasty groundings up there. We get a bunch of Canadian sailboats on our 800 pier ever Summer, here in Hawaii. Most are steel, from what I've seen over the years. Canada is for the "Big Boyz" when choosing equipment.
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Re: Border X KCLM (Port Angeles) to CYQQ (Comox)?

WX in July looking good...

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Re: Border X KCLM (Port Angeles) to CYQQ (Comox)?

Halestorm wrote:Dangit Cary, you're going to let the special secret that is Desolation Sound out of the ol bag!

I'm one of those guys that is fortunate enough to be paid to fly beavers and turbo-otters around that area every summer, it is a truly magical place.

Princess Louisa is amazing, always glassy water, Gorge Harbor, Cortez Island, Big Bay, Dent Island Resort, Refuge Cove, Prideaux Haven, Port Hardy, Sullivan Bay, Port MacNeil, out to the west side with Bamfield and Tofino. Heck, scrub the Alaska trip, just spend your summer in BC! They got better WX and things are cheaper!

Ooops! Sorry!

I do envy you. I love where I live, but I also love that whole area. Refuge Cove is one of the most unique places, with its communal style. Prideaux Haven is gorgeous--I was there for about 3 days. But nothing tops Princess Louisa, another place I stayed for 3 days--and every hour it was a little different. If I had unlimited resources, I'd be spending many months out of every year, either putting along on a Nordic Tug or scooting around in a float plane.

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Re: Border X KCLM (Port Angeles) to CYQQ (Comox)?

One thing you have to look out for during July and August is the morning fog. It usually lifts about noon and allows boats and planes to get moving about the same time. Both usually move along at the same altitude so some care must be taken. The acceptable practice is for the plane to jump over the boat mast. A number of guys have tried alternate methods but none of them really worked all that good. The trick of course is to get back down under the fog were there are no tall masts or commercial fish boats. This is where the skill of a coastal pilot is truly tested. There is a reason these guys drink all night and don't get rolling until noon, its called self preservation.
All joking aside during the summer we traditionally get these big fogs so be careful and plan accordingly. There are a lot of web cams that are very useful for checking weather conditions.
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175 magnum wrote:One thing you have to look out for during July and August is the morning fog. It usually lifts about noon and allows boats and planes to get moving about the same time. Both usually move along at the same altitude so some care must be taken. The acceptable practice is for the plane to jump over the boat mast. A number of guys have tried alternate methods but none of them really worked all that good. The trick of course is to get back down under the fog were there are no tall masts or commercial fish boats. This is where the skill of a coastal pilot is truly tested. There is a reason these guys drink all night and don't get rolling until noon, its called self preservation.
All joking aside during the summer we traditionally get these big fogs so be careful and plan accordingly. There are a lot of web cams that are very useful for checking weather conditions.


I see, thank you for the guidance. The ocean water is cold and dew point / temperature spread is small. I have noticed close dew point spreads "armchair" flying in the region with ForeFlight.

Keep the information flowing guys!
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