Does anyone have experience with or knowledge of this guy, his course, the quality etc. besides the (expensive) book review? I recently came across an advertisement for his course which he will be doing in Montrose CO and somewhere in Arizona in October. Wondering if there is any value in it (or if it's worth the $1500.00 it costs for 5 days).

Thanks,

Stig

Here's a link http://www.bushair.co/Ad%20CO1.pdf

https://www.backcountrypilot.org/commun ... ning-15859

Here's a post from a couple weeks ago...

Stig,

If you can get in contact with him, ask about ground effect, gravity thrust, oregraphic lift and thermal lift and how it can compliment excess engine thrust for climb. There are afternoons in the mountains when your 182 has no excess engine thrust for climb. That is when natural energy can be of great benefit. I used natural energy all the time rather than putting in more gas than necessary.

Good luck,

Jim

Watch one of his videos......if you think you could actually tolerate his egotistical BS, go for it.

MTV

Seems to me I once read an expose in a yellow aviation journal that his original name was:
B.S. Poppycock - seemed fitting at the time..

Never really met him so should maybe a bit kinder till the proof is in,
But he sure seems to be full of himself,

Trim

Seems to me I once read an expose in a yellow aviation journal that his original name was:
B.S. Poppycock - seemed fitting at the time..

Never really met him so should maybe a bit kinder till the proof is in,
But he sure seems to be full of himself,

Trim

you cant make this stuff up

Must be good when a good looking American girl goes to South Africa to train... to bad no one over here teachs engine out and rough field landings sans shoulder harness. 40 stitches didn't seem to teach him anything about 4 point shoulder harnesses.

Good to see an old fastback 172 earning a living.

I detected a reasonable amount of self irony so would be inclined to cut the guy some slack.

PFLs in the African bush is one form of adventure holiday, and hopefully no endangered species were harmed!

I detected a reasonable amount of self irony so would be inclined to cut the guy some slack.

Me too, I would like to meet him and check out his place. I would fly with him too. Pity he is so far away. The price of his lessons makes me wistful. $140.00 an hour for a 172? Try nearly three times that in Oz, sounds like a bargain to me (but not necessarily to you folk I guess )

In an article about him he was quoted saying CC is for Captain Crash. Also seems fitting.

Compared with mountiancanyonflying.com this is very reasonable including the aircraft rates.

The course and guy beg the question of what your life is worth however. $1500 / 5 days/nights lodging + flying + Pocock compared with $3900/ 4 days Idaho and 220/172 or 235/182.

Are there mountain/canyon instructors in the CO and UT area that offer individual instruction anyone can recommend?

Thanks

I especially like his comment "more rules....more sh!t!". Quite fitting if I have to say so myself. I also, agree, cut the guy some slack. I can honestly say that their are many people on these forms that are full of themselves, probably myself included. The way we precieve each other via the posts we write sometimes are not at all how we may be in person. Enough experiences in life have toaght me to give anyone the benefit of the doubt...at least once.
For any of you that have not been to Africa, it is a unique place and I dream of going back.

WWhunter wrote:I especially like his comment "more rules....more sh!t!". Quite fitting if I have to say so myself. I also, agree, cut the guy some slack. I can honestly say that their are many people on these forms that are full of themselves, probably myself included. The way we precieve each other via the posts we write sometimes are not at all how we may be in person. Enough experiences in life have toaght me to give anyone the benefit of the doubt...at least once.
For any of you that have not been to Africa, it is a unique place and I dream of going back.

I 99% agree with you WWhunter. Been to Africa. Once was enough. I want to do Australia and New Zealand.

Cheers...Rob

Me... I'd cut him slack as well. Its easy to make comments from a far, but the fact is he seems to be making a living doing what he loves (like so many wish they could do.) It takes some balls to put yourself out there and promote a biz like that. Most humans couldn't even keep their head up long enough to take the comments from the peanut gallery let alone manage all the other shit associated from running that kind of biz. I dunno that guy nor have any knowledge other than seeing his vids and looking at the site. Fact is the guy looks nuts... but I'd take a trip over there and roll the dice. Im sure I would learn a ton. Whats the worst that could happen?

Good on him for making a go at it.

A1Skinner wrote:Must be good when a good looking American girl goes to South Africa to train... to bad no one over here teachs engine out and rough field landings sans shoulder harness. 40 stitches didn't seem to teach him anything about 4 point shoulder harnesses.

That good looking American girl is Melissa Pemberton in her very early stages of flying. She and Wes used to jump with us in Lodi often. Now she is a champion aerobatic pilot. Anyway, I am betting this guy and his course is worth the price. Also betting he teaches a no BS approach and real flying rather than what books say. Just my guess.

AKT

I didn't realize that was Melissa. I got to watch Melissa and Rex do their show at Reno last week. Rex and Melissa came to Daves hangar and visited too. Nice young people. They are friends with 1:1scale.

Cheers...Rob

It does seem as though he does go off the book, like many of us probably do. And who knows, maybe he has installed shoulder harnesses by now. It would be interesting to see what his course is like. His ads make him out to be quite a renegade, but to judge him from those alone is wrong. Sorry that I did that.

Ummm, I would point out that the original poster asked about Pocock's training in the USA, NOT in Africa.

And, for those commenting that he's making a living at this, I'd point out the old saying: How do you make a small fortune in aviation? Start with a large fortune." Who knows what kind of bucks he started with.....and who cares?

I've seen air taxi operators who've had terrible accident records, including fatal accidents where the cause was pure stupidity, ego and lousy piloting......and they're still in business, though I have no idea how they get insurance or where the money comes from, cause they sure aren't making it from their flying.

Please read my original post. What I tried to get across was if you think you could put up with this guy's attitude, you might do well with him. Could you learn something from him? No doubt....it just might not be about flying.

Can't judge a book by it's You Tube video?? If you're advertising your program, I think you'd try to portray it and yourself accurately.

His videos speak for themselves. If that's your style, go for it. I'm sure he can teach you all kinds of secret ways to fly.... and maybe help you determine where your gag reflex kicks in......

MTV

Cut the guy some slack. He's OK. I've flown the bush all over the world - including multiple places in Africa and PNG - commercial and private, but even with thousands of hours doing so, I still consider myself a novice. I've talked to him and he's knowledgable. Price doesn't appear out of line. I've known one or two highly experienced bush pilots up in the AK who didn't have (or didn't wear) shoulder harnesses in their Super Cubs...until after the crash.