Once again, a topic deserving of its own thread. -Z
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mtv wrote:But, if you find an IA who can get this stuff done on a field approval, go there. It would then be legal, and the guys in your district would essentially be powerless to rescind your FA.
MTV

Exactly what had to be done to put a big fork on my 1959 182. Bought a T-41 fork (same as the 310 but without the eyes for the fender) on line from a guy in Texas that bought it from a guy in Seatle that flew his plane down from AK and did not want it anymore. Live in Northern Northern CA and the local FAA guy said the same thing that the Texas FAA guy said. They do not do those things anymore. End of story.

Flew the plane to Chalis, ID with the part and a day later flew it home with the fork installed. Two weeks later the FA showed up. The Boise FAA guy had moved down from AK and he said no sweat.

Shop arround tell you get what you want.

Tim

qmdv wrote:

mtv wrote:But, if you find an IA who can get this stuff done on a field approval, go there. It would then be legal, and the guys in your district would essentially be powerless to rescind your FA.
MTV

Exactly what had to be done to put a big fork on my 1959 182. Bought a T-41 fork (same as the 310 but without the eyes for the fender) on line from a guy in Texas that bought it from a guy in Seatle that flew his plane down from AK and did not want it anymore. Live in Northern Northern CA and the local FAA guy said the same thing that the Texas FAA guy said. They do not do those things anymore. End of story.

Flew the plane to Chalis, ID with the part and a day later flew it home with the fork installed. Two weeks later the FA showed up. The Boise FAA guy had moved down from AK and he said no sweat.

Shop arround tell you get what you want.

Tim

On the 67 182 I used to have I bought a fork from a 310. The mechanic shaved off the ears for the fender and bolted it on. Made a logbook entry referencing the large fork that is on the options list for the 182 and off I went.

Bonanza Man wrote:The mechanic shaved off the ears for the fender and bolted it on. Made a logbook entry referencing the large fork that is on the options list for the 182 and off I went.

Not sure about this but to just do a log book entry, don't you have to use the part number that is on the optional equipment list. Shaved off the ears of a 310 fork, might make some trouble for sombody especially with an insurance claim. The large fork was not an option from the factory in 59

Tim

Another route to a big nose fork on a 182 or other Cessna aircraft is here:
http://www.airglas.com/new_certification.html

This one is STC'd as well, so a little simpler to accomplish. This nose fork is also larger than any of the Cessna forks. It is essentially a Piper Cherokee Six nose fork.

Spendy, though.

MTV

Thought about the airglass fork but thought that what I wanted was a compromise. Life is way to full of those. If you put the 8.50 x 6 on the front then you have to have the same on the mains. That meant new rims, double puck brakes. then why not go to the AK bush wheels.

The fact is, I do 95 % of my flying to see grand kids. Am planning to go to Baja pretty soon. I cannot imagine draging bushwheels all the way there and back. That is why a 6.00x6 up front and and 7.00's on the mains is a good way to go for me. I have noticed that most of the maules with tric gear have this same configuration.

Not to interested in landing on gravel bars. Well that is a lie, lets say I can live without it. With what I have I can land on just about anything in Idaho. What I need is more practice, and more time to go play.

Still do not think that you can put on a 310 fork with just a logbook entry.

Tim

qmdv wrote:

Bonanza Man wrote:The mechanic shaved off the ears for the fender and bolted it on. Made a logbook entry referencing the large fork that is on the options list for the 182 and off I went.

Not sure about this but to just do a log book entry, don't you have to use the part number that is on the optional equipment list. Shaved off the ears of a 310 fork, might make some trouble for sombody especially with an insurance claim. The large fork was not an option from the factory in 59

Tim

Yes, that's what we did. You can't tell the difference in the forks once the fender ears are shaved off. They're identical.

We put the Landes forks on all our 206's, but we put 8.50 x 6.00 tires on the mains and 8.00 x 6.00 on the nose. That retains the original stance of the aircraft in the landing configuration. With 8.50's on all three corners, it's really easy to touch nose wheel first. The setup that jmtgt described accomplishes the same thing, albeit with a bit more drag.
I don't know how much of a speed difference you'd see between the tires you have and the setup I just described. Once you give up the fairings, you pretty much set yourself up for some slower flying.

MTV

mtv wrote:We put the Landes forks on all our 206's, but we put 8.50 x 6.00 tires on the mains and 8.00 x 6.00 on the nose. That retains the original stance of the aircraft in the landing configuration. With 8.50's on all three corners, it's really easy to touch nose wheel first. The setup that jmtgt described accomplishes the same thing, albeit with a bit more drag.
I don't know how much of a speed difference you'd see between the tires you have and the setup I just described. Once you give up the fairings, you pretty much set yourself up for some slower flying.

MTV

I had 8.00 mains and a 6.00 nose as well as VG's. I got 128 kts true. The Cessna pants from the 60's really weren't designed for speed but rather for looks. I only lost about 3-4 kts from the standard tires and pants. A friend has a mid 70's 182 with the IO-550 at 300 hp, the canards up front as well as stall fences. He has 26 inch Bushwheels on the mains and I don't know what on the nose, at least an 8.50 but I think it's bigger. He gets 140 kts true but it takes 15 gph to get there.

Well I'm using a fork off a Cessna 411. Same as the 310 or close to it. I have a 6.00 x 6 on there now and I think I could go to a 7.00 x 6 if needed. Run 7.00s on the mains. I lost about 2 or 3 knots when I took the pants off, not really to big of change.

That "Airglas" fork looks good, but yikes. Sticker shock.

Would like to put VGs on, but that will have to wait. New carb next week during annual. Plus a few minor items. Primer is sticky, isn't as smooth as I would like, heated pitot pops the circut breaker, number 5 EGT reads 280-300 when the rest are 1390-1425. So looks like a new probe there. Altimeter sticks once in a while, so will send it for overhaul. Anyone have a good shop for that? I hope that's it. Real trivial issues compared to issues that others a dealing with at this time. "God Bless"

See ya, Bub

Rudy Aircraft Instruments in Arkansas, good service, quick, and affordable. They advertise in TAP.

Eric

For the EGT problem take apart the connection where the probe connects to the wires from the monitor harness. On some engine monitors if the connections aren't clean and tight you will get bad readings.

Bonanza Man wrote:For the EGT problem take apart the connection where the probe connects to the wires from the monitor harness. On some engine monitors if the connections aren't clean and tight you will get bad readings.

Hey Bo Man,

Great idea! No really, I hadn't thought of that. I'll do that this afternoon. Went out for 1.7 this am. Smooth as glass, spotted Elk, Mule Deer, Prong horns. One Bull Elk was a 6x6 looking though Binos,... not me the spotter.

Thanks, Bub

Is there any pilot or mechanic out there who knows where I can take my 59 Cessna 182 to have a large fork installed (not the overpriced Landis fork) in Montana, Idaho, or Wyoming? I want to get the work done now. please respond.....thanks in advance...Bill

makingmemories wrote:Is there any pilot or mechanic out there who knows where I can take my 59 Cessna 182 to have a large fork installed (not the overpriced Landis fork) in Montana, Idaho, or Wyoming? I want to get the work done now. please respond.....thanks in advance...Bill

Try contacting Doug at 208-634-4088 he's in McCall ,Id. understand he's done a number of them. From John Seevers who lives in McCall.

Pilots Please Respond...help is needed....I talked with the FAA in my state and they are willing to do a field approval to allow installation of a big fork on my 59 Cessna 182 if I can show documentation that it has been done before. Is there anyone out there with a 56-59 182 that already has a field approval for a big fork and approval to run 8.50's on the mains and 6.00 X 6, 7.00 X6, or 8.00 X 6 nose tire? If so, please contact me. They are requesting info and serial numbers for the new fork, strut if applicable, and wheel, along with tire size, and any info from anyone else who has already received a field approval from the FAA. I should be able to find these items at a salvage yard. Any input is needed and greatly appreciated.

Here is a fork tht will go on a 172, 182, 175, 205 or 206 for puting a 600x6 or a 700x6 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cessna-1 ... 2ea8bec911

Tim

Montana, Makingmemories post on Aug 11. Did you find anyone who had a field approval for a heavy duty nose fork for your 59 182. I have a 58 182 and am looking at doing the same thing. (8.50's main, 7.00 front.) If you have any info I would appreciate it.

I went with the Landes Fork, 8.50's on the mains and got a field approval from the local Helena FSDO (Cliff Carpenter) to allow the use of an 8.00 on the nose. I would be confident that he would also approve a 7.00 on the nose. Landes has copies of the field approval. I am very happy with the Landes setup..sticker shock but extreme heavy duty..had to cut 3" off the nose strut.....expensive..but a great setup......no regrets. Hitchcock Aviation in Idaho is a dealer and has great support.......I got tired of looking for other forks and wanted a solid legal paper trail with my airplane......blue skies...Bill

makingmemories wrote: wanted a solid legal paper trail with my airplane......blue skies...Bill

That's exactly why I went with the Landes kit, as well.

makingmemories wrote:I went with the Landes Fork, 8.50's on the mains and got a field approval from the local Helena FSDO (Cliff Carpenter) to allow the use of an 8.00 on the nose. I would be confident that he would also approve a 7.00 on the nose. Landes has copies of the field approval. I am very happy with the Landes setup..sticker shock but extreme heavy duty..had to cut 3" off the nose strut.....expensive..but a great setup......no regrets. Hitchcock Aviation in Idaho is a dealer and has great support.......I got tired of looking for other forks and wanted a solid legal paper trail with my airplane......blue skies...Bill

I used a 411 nose fork(forged not folded) with 7x6 nose wheel. I've got a pair of 7x6 on the mains on but do have a pair of 800's (and tubes) in my storage. All approved by field approval. Have Cleveland double puck brakes on mains . I did NOT cut anything off the nose Strut length . I do have another 411 strut tube for sale -same as 206 length -diameter .