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This happened a few hours ago, no one injured.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47282114/ns ... pokane_wa/
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Dale Moul wrote:This happened a few hours ago, no one injured.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47282114/ns ... pokane_wa/


What happened? Did he have his landing gear down? Glad no one was hurt.
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From the above article.
"According to the instructor, the wheeled landing gear was left down and when the float plane attempted to land on the water, the plane tipped upside down".



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Bottom of the article mentions the gear being down.
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Hello Backcountry Pilots,

I investigated this accident today. The instructor is a very good friend of mine. No one was hurt, and the airplane will fly again. It was fortunate that there was all this equipment/boats on hand to retreive the airplane. That water was cold! If they had landed on a more remote lake or river the outcome might not have been as good. Murphy Rebels are great little airplanes. Sh#t happens.

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From what I can see in the pics there was very little damage. Looks like a busted windshield and water soaked...and a broken bit of pride I am sure. As was stated...sh!t happens and I am glad to hear no one was hurt.
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Everything I've read about forgetting to raise the gear on an amphib tells me these folks were supremely fortunate--it's more often everyone dies.

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Everything I've read about forgetting to raise the gear on an amphib tells me these folks were supremely fortunate--it's more often everyone dies.

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Hey Cary,
There was a beaver on amphibious floats that crashed on Lake Chelan in the Washington State's Cascade Mountains a few of years ago. Two good people unfortunatly drowned. The pilot landed with the gear extended and had silenced the gear warning horn all the way to the water. The pilot did not assist in helping the passengers out of the aircraft. When I shave every morning I look at the guy that gave this pilot/coward his last 135 check ride.

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Things happen fast when the wheels get left down on a water landing.



(video is a different wreck)

Glad everyone ok, and very impressed at how little damage to the aircraft.
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Re: floatplane flips in hayden lake Idaho

Super-Maule wrote:....The pilot did not assist in helping the passengers out of the aircraft. When I shave every morning I look at the guy that gave this pilot/coward his last 135 check ride....



To be fair, in a situation like this I think the body goes into the fight or flight mode. It's nice to think that you'd do the noble thing, but when the shit hits the fan & the adrenaline's flowing, sometimes the flight part of that takes over & it's every man for himself. A person never knows how he's gonna react until it happens, with "react" being the key word.
Would it have been better if all three people on board had perished?
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Awe shit! Wonder if they went all the way over and sat upright, face full of plexiglas.good job not getting killed. Bad job on gear selection.things definitely happen. glad this one turned out good................Soooooo ... Any amphibian pilots out there want to chime in on the Routine?Here's mine..... Wheels up I'm landing in the water,,,,,, my wheels are down I'm landing at an airport .............OUT LOUD..... I have not blown it yet. ... Yet,,,,,,,, when I take off from pavement the gear goes up.There is no reason to leave it down in my mind.Is there?? I can not think of one................I am not a bazillion hour amphibian pilot but I have my share of water flying time and do switch between fixed gear and retractable ect.... I hope I don't do the nasty one day and flip over or leave the gear up on the runway ect ..... Amphibs are an overall pain in the ass with unbelievable rewards.Focus Jedi warrior
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That title got my attention. Wondered if it was my original SES instructor and indeed it was, glad to hear he and the student are OK. Plane looks amazingly undamaged...
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Glad everything worked out and they made it out safely. Hayden Lake is chilling this time of year. The instructor did my SES and is a stand up guy.
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Hotrod wrote; To be fair, in a situation like this I think the body goes into the fight or flight mode. It's nice to think that you'd do the noble thing, but when the shit hits the fan & the adrenaline's flowing, sometimes the flight part of that takes over & it's every man for himself. A person never knows how he's gonna react until it happens, with "react" being the key word.
Would it have been better if all three people on board had perished?


In the 2008 Lake Chelan accident one of the passengers, a Spokane physician drowned trying to get his wife out of the submerged airplane. As this was happening the uninjured pilot was sitting on top of the float "crying". I stand by my previous statement. The pilot was is and always will be a coward.

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STEHEKIN, Wash. - Two people were killed Saturday when a float plane carrying five people crashed into Lake Chelan near the remote resort community of Stehekin in the North Cascades.
The single-engine DeHavilland Beaver was a charter flight from Chelan Airways that had taken off from the town of Chelan about 4:30 p.m. It crashed about 15 minutes later, flipping onto its top as it tried to land at Stehekin, said Jeff Middleton, chief criminal deputy for the Chelan County sheriff's department.
Some witnesses said the plane's wheels were not retracted when its floats touched down, causing the plane to flip.
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somebody sent this one today:

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Wheels down landing on ground. Wheels up landing on water. Ooops!
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Just me, or was that boat awfuly slow getting over to a plane that could have had people trapped inside?
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Slow is what I thought too. Was an Air Tractor and looks like a foreign country to me.
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Wow I have never seen a video of this, that rate of deceleration is almost like hitting a brick wall. I wonder how many Gs that puts on the occupants, it's got to be a lot.
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scottf wrote:Wow I have never seen a video of this, that rate of deceleration is almost like hitting a brick wall. I wonder how many Gs that puts on the occupants, it's got to be a lot.


Think about it-- you go from being upright doing 60 to 80 mph, to dead-stopped upside down and most likely submerged, in about 2 seconds. That's gotta rattle your brain around inside your gourd-- I'm surprised that anyone gets out alive from a crash like this.
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