My knowledge of hydraulics is piss poor. I've been trying to come up with a decent way to transfer fuel from my gas cans to my plane. The gas station type nozzle and pump you put on a tank in your pickup started getting all leaky on my after a while. I tried to just buy a fuel pump from eBay, it must have been cheap Chinese crap because it would make noise but not pump fuel.

I'd like to have something fairly lightweight that I could take with me, but durable enough to use all the time. Any suggestions?

https://solarconduit.com/shop/lvm111-su ... -pump.html
These are a great little pump, will fit right into the top of a 5 gallon can, or in the fuel tank on the plane.
Have used one for about 3 years no trouble, little bit of clear tubing and a plastic shut off valve in the tubing, remember to ground the can
GT

is it safe to use this pump with gas? The product description mentions only diesel.

Pumps fresh and seawater. Rapid diesel refueling and transfer with no spillage. Bilge pump-out in tight areas. Water transfer, deck showers, deck, anchor and general washdown. Robust slim-line with clip-on, easily cleaned filter.

LVM pumps are constructed of polyacetal plastic, enabling them to pump almost any liquids. They are small enough to enter the opening in a five gallon container or a 2" well casing. The outlet is a half-inch hose barb. The intake has a removable strainer with another hose barb for inline use. Simply unclip the strainer and attach a 1/2" hose to the hose barb.

500 gallons per hour (1920 liters per hour) at 32 ft. head.

LVM 111 comes with battery clips. These pumps are designed for 12-volt operation and will be damaged by array-direct operation if voltage goes above 15 volts.

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Pressure (max psi) at 0 flow ______14
Maximum head (feet) ___________32
Dimensions (inches) ____________1.5 x 6.54
Weight (lb) ___________________1.5
Cable length __________________12 ft
Operating Temp. _______________ water temp. to 176 degrees F (80 degrees C)

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So it's not suited for gas.

M6RV6 says he's been using one for 3 years to pump gas. I'd say it is suitable for gas.

Just wanted to make sure. I always wondered why most of these pumps are only approved for diesel. Maybe there is a chance of spark or source of heat which wouldn't be too good in a Jerry can with just the right mixture of gas and air. Not safe enough for me.

I tried to just buy a fuel pump from eBay, it must have been cheap Chinese crap because it would make noise but not pump fuel.

Did you reverse the wires? I'm assuming 12 volt.

svanarts wrote:My knowledge of hydraulics is piss poor. I've been trying to come up with a decent way to transfer fuel from my gas cans to my plane. The gas station type nozzle and pump you put on a tank in your pickup started getting all leaky on my after a while. I tried to just buy a fuel pump from eBay, it must have been cheap Chinese crap because it would make noise but not pump fuel.

I'd like to have something fairly lightweight that I could take with me, but durable enough to use all the time. Any suggestions?

How big are your cans? My buddy came up with a funnel that stands on its own and allows one to pour a five gallon can into the plane as fast as gravity will take it. Yeah, you have to lift 30+ pounds over your head, but it's super cheap and super fast. I can dig up a photo if your interested.

I tried a funnel but it splashed too much gas. Didn't want to risk getting it on the lexan.

As to reversing the wires I did connect the + to the + side of my battery. Ohm's Law was not violated in any of my attempts. Fuel would come through the pump but only at a dribble.

A couple of buddies of mine with Supercubs on floats use a siphon hose to transfer the fuel from a 5 gal can to the wing tank. They set the can on the wing over the forward spar and the use a siphon hose which has a "rattle" pump they shake to start the fuel flowing into the tank. Gravity takes care of the rest. I've also used a outboard motor style squeeze bulb to start a siphon. To stop it all you have to do is pull the hose out of the can, very little or no fuel spill.

Tim

Ignition protection in the motor and pump is what I would look for. If not, you maybe playing Russian Roulette.

Always have liked guns!!
I got mine after a couple of guides up here showed theres to me, one on floats (206) the other a cub and 180.
YEARS AGO i used to use a water pump that you had to put grease in to the cups to lube and seal, it was hooked to a 12 volt starter that you kinda had to hook and unhook the jumper cables because it would over speed and explode. This worked until I was able to buy a real gas pump? So this one seems pretty spiffy to me!
GT

www.SummitRacing.com I've used one of their high volume fuel pumps for some years now. For around 100 bucks you can get one that will hold up long term and is made for just that job, pumping gas. 20 years ago on my first S-7, I teed into my fuel line, then went to a shutoff valve, then a short length of fuel line with a quick disconnect, the type that seals both ends automatically. This was to be able to transfer fuel from a ferry tank while in flight. A panel mounted switch with a light controls the pump, and the shutoff valve is where I can easily reach it in flight. My stock 29 gallons plus the 6 gallon ferry tank give me an easy 8 hrs duration, with plenty of reserve.

I first used a little Facet regular (slow) type fuel pump, but more recently I upgraded to the much higher volume type, not because I needed to pump fuel faster in flight, but for faster on the ground fuel transfer. I got another quick disco end, and put 3' of hose on it. Now when I come back from a gas station I can set the bag or jug on the ground and stick the line in there and in 5 minutes or so I've moved 6 gallons of gas. Just enough time to smoke a cigarette. Kidding there. I have a clean plastic bag dedicated for storage of that line extension. Besides totally eliminating any chance of spilling it on the wing and.or skylight (obvious), the not so obvious thing is I just watch the wing tank sight gauge while the pump does all the work. If I really want to max out my capacity, I'll pump until I get a few drops out of the vent, which on mine exit mid wing bottom, safe in other words.

courierguy wrote:http://www.SummitRacing.com I've used one of their high volume fuel pumps for some years now. For around 100 bucks you can get one that will hold up long term and is made for just that job, pumping gas. 20 years ago on my first S-7, I teed into my fuel line, then went to a shutoff valve, then a short length of fuel line with a quick disconnect, the type that seals both ends automatically. This was to be able to transfer fuel from a ferry tank while in flight. A panel mounted switch with a light controls the pump, and the shutoff valve is where I can easily reach it in flight. My stock 29 gallons plus the 6 gallon ferry tank give me an easy 8 hrs duration, with plenty of reserve.

I first used a little Facet regular (slow) type fuel pump, but more recently I upgraded to the much higher volume type, not because I needed to pump fuel faster in flight, but for faster on the ground fuel transfer. I got another quick disco end, and put 3' of hose on it. Now when I come back from a gas station I can set the bag or jug on the ground and stick the line in there and in 5 minutes or so I've moved 6 gallons of gas. Just enough time to smoke a cigarette. Kidding there. I have a clean plastic bag dedicated for storage of that line extension. Besides totally eliminating any chance of spilling it on the wing and.or skylight (obvious), the not so obvious thing is I just watch the wing tank sight gauge while the pump does all the work. If I really want to max out my capacity, I'll pump until I get a few drops out of the vent, which on mine exit mid wing bottom, safe in other words.

Neat. If you have a chance could you post the Summit Racing Part number of the pump you like? Thanks, interesting info.

Try SUM-G3136-1, I think it was that one or at least very similar. I can't get to it now and besides there are no numbers on it. I do recall it being their in house SUMMIT brand, and it being a bit less then $100.00

courierguy wrote:Try SUM-G3136-1, I think it was that one or at least very similar. I can't get to it now and besides there are no numbers on it. I do recall it being their in house SUMMIT brand, and it being a bit less then $100.00

Thank you "Mr. CourierGuy". I like it!

Summit Racing SUM-G3136-1 - Summit Racing Street & Strip® Electric Fuel Pumps
$74.97
Fuel Pump, Electric, External, Universal, Gas, Each

For what it's worth, as your safety representative from the petroleum industry, please don't go pumping gasoline using a pump that connects with alligator clips. Burning to death is no fun. No shit!

Mister701 wrote:For what it's worth, as your safety representative from the petroleum industry, please don't go pumping gasoline using a pump that connects with alligator clips. Burning to death is no fun. No shit!

+1

Also, fuel in well ventilated area with plenty room.

SA Maule wrote:Or get someone else to pump the fuel, while you watch from a safe distance (:

The aviation caste of fuel personnel?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste