I have seen that the new G5 is going to have GPS steering but my question is will you be able to role steer specifically a Trio Pro auto pilot from the G5 HSI if new headings are given by air traffic control or will it only follow the GPS course? I think the detail is in the G5 uses a GAD 29 data bus to drive for the roll steering but the Trio Pro has an ARINC 429 data bus. Or do I just not know what I am talking about. My question is can I drive the Trio Pro auto pilot with the G5 or just the GPS?

gypsywagon wrote:I have seen that the new G5 is going to have GPS steering but my question is will you be able to role steer specifically a Trio Pro auto pilot from the G5 HSI if new headings are given by air traffic control or will it only follow the GPS course? I think the detail is in the G5 uses a GAD 29 data bus to drive for the roll steering but the Trio Pro has an ARINC 429 data bus. Or do I just not know what I am talking about. My question is can I drive the Trio Pro auto pilot with the G5 or just the GPS?

Why would you want to drive it from the G5 when you can simply hook up the RS232 wire from a GPS? Or are you looking to use the G5 as a DG to hold the heading? The G5 is hooked to the gdl 29, which is hooked to a gps(how I understand the connection). But if you just have a GPS antenna hooked to a G5, not sure I you need a GDL29. But also not sure if you can use it for GPS steering then. Will be following this as I'll have the same/similar setup in my 206...

If you buy the GAD 29B it will support the following autopilots: Century II/III; IV (AC); IV (DC); 21/31/41; and 2000; Cessna 400B and 300 IFCS/400 IFCS; Honeywell (Bendix King) KAP 100/150/200; KFC 150/200; KAP 140; and KFC 225; S-TEC 20/30/40/50/55/60-1/60-2/65; 60 PSS; and 55X.

More to come I hope. The newer certified Autopilots will be a long time out I suppose... Why help the competition...

Jim

jaudette wrote:If you buy the GAD 29B it will support the following autopilots: Century II/III; IV (AC); IV (DC); 21/31/41; and 2000; Cessna 400B and 300 IFCS/400 IFCS; Honeywell (Bendix King) KAP 100/150/200; KFC 150/200; KAP 140; and KFC 225; S-TEC 20/30/40/50/55/60-1/60-2/65; 60 PSS; and 55X.

More to come I hope. The newer certified Autopilots will be a long time out I suppose... Why help the competition...

Jim

GAD is what I meant. But do you still have to have a GPS hooked up to the whole shebang? In that case, I think it's still easier to just hook it up direct to the Trio using the RS 232 or Arinc 429 output...

A1Skinner wrote:

jaudette wrote:If you buy the GAD 29B it will support the following autopilots: Century II/III; IV (AC); IV (DC); 21/31/41; and 2000; Cessna 400B and 300 IFCS/400 IFCS; Honeywell (Bendix King) KAP 100/150/200; KFC 150/200; KAP 140; and KFC 225; S-TEC 20/30/40/50/55/60-1/60-2/65; 60 PSS; and 55X.

More to come I hope. The newer certified Autopilots will be a long time out I suppose... Why help the competition...

Jim

GAD is what I meant. But do you still have to have a GPS hooked up to the whole shebang? In that case, I think it's still easier to just hook it up direct to the Trio using the RS 232 or Arinc 429 output...

Yes... Gotta have the GPS! You'd have to use 232 or 429.

If a single G5 EADI is installed to replace steam gauges can it be "reverted" to the EHSI and display a gps track ? What supporting equipment would be required to accomplish this in the simplest manor ?

Mapleflt

Mapleflt wrote:If a single G5 EADI is installed to replace steam gauges can it be "reverted" to the EHSI and display a gps track ? What supporting equipment would be required to accomplish this in the simplest manor ?

Mapleflt

Yes you can use it as an HSI. You need the GMU11, GAD29, and hooked to a GPS.

Any particular GPS to recommend, simpler the better I get my "bell & whistles" in my other airplane, the work one !!!

The garmin 660s are very nice. I like my 796 better simply for the XM radio, but the dual sattelite glonass/GPS of the 660 is nice.

Thanks for the intel, I’m really trying to craft a 21 century “needle, ball & airspeed”panel, with some enhancements !!

Mapleflt wrote:Thanks for the intel, I’m really trying to craft a 21 century “needle, ball & airspeed”panel, with some enhancements !!

The nice thing with the G5 is that you have airspeed and altitude right on it as well. I'm just putting one in as a DG on a supercub right now.

A1Skinner wrote:The garmin 660s are very nice. I like my 796 better simply for the XM radio, but the dual sattelite glonass/GPS of the 660 is nice.

The 796 and the GDL39-3d is one of the best combo's I've flown behind. It does everything!

jaudette wrote:

A1Skinner wrote:The garmin 660s are very nice. I like my 796 better simply for the XM radio, but the dual sattelite glonass/GPS of the 660 is nice.

The 796 and the GDL39-3d is one of the best combo's I've flown behind. It does everything!

Ok. This is most likely what my 206 will end up with. What does th GDL39-3d add for function? ADS-B?

A1Skinner wrote:

jaudette wrote:

A1Skinner wrote:The garmin 660s are very nice. I like my 796 better simply for the XM radio, but the dual sattelite glonass/GPS of the 660 is nice.

The 796 and the GDL39-3d is one of the best combo's I've flown behind. It does everything!

Ok. This is most likely what my 206 will end up with. What does th GDL39-3d add for function? ADS-B?

ADSB in, synthetic vision, traffic, terrain, IFR plates, Taxi diagrams, VFR charts and the list goes on and on! It's bad ass and totally modular!

Edit: There is a reason it is so far backordered!

jaudette wrote:

A1Skinner wrote:

jaudette wrote:[quote="A1Skinner"]The garmin 660s are very nice. I like my 796 better simply for the XM radio, but the dual sattelite glonass/GPS of the 660 is nice.

The 796 and the GDL39-3d is one of the best combo's I've flown behind. It does everything!

Ok. This is most likely what my 206 will end up with. What does th GDL39-3d add for function? ADS-B?

ADSB in, synthetic vision, traffic, terrain, IFR plates, Taxi diagrams, VFR charts and the list goes on and on! It's bad ass and totally modular!

Edit: There is a reason it is so far backordered![/quote]

Nice! The syn vis on the 796 works great as is, but I imagine the GDL stabilizes it even better? We dont have ADS-B up here yet, but will soon enough.
The avionics shop I use can't keep G5s on the shelves either. A few week lead time. They have 10 coming in but dont see them laying long... these new avionics are awesome!

The biggest thing is that you can see it in direct sunlight. With Garmin pilot, 796 and the GDL39-3d you don't need an additional subscription. I think it's the best kept secret!

Jim

I'm sorry, yes to role steer like a DG rather than the GPS for fine adjustments and to change to headings called out by air traffic control. Its not a huge issue but if your going to be able to fly flight plans based on the GPS it would be nice to be able to make fine adjustments with the heading bug for role steering on the G5 HSI. I'm a novice when it comes to putting these systems together. I just know that I want 2 G5''s a WASS GPS and either a trio pro or garmin 500 auto pilot. So was worried about the functionality between G5 HSI and trio autopilot.

I installed an original (pre-STC) G5 in my C180.
I downloaded the users manual off the internet, something like 140 pages worth.
A good portion of that is about driving an autopilot with it.
I didn't bone up on it too much since I don't have an autopilot.
But it does make sense to me to drive it from the G5's HSI page, just like you'd drive it from a regular HSI.

You can try googling up the G5 users manual, shouldn't be too hard.
Worse comes to worse, PM me and I'll email the file to you.

gypsywagon wrote:...my question is will you be able to role steer specifically a Trio Pro auto pilot

Are you asking if you can use the G5 in "heading mode" to steer the auto pilot via the heading bug? Or are you asking if the G5 does roll steering with the autopilot?

In an older autopilot say the STEC, you needed a separate device like the ST901 to do roll steering. You could also use the autopilot in "heading mode" and steer it simply left or right with the bug. I believe with the G5 you can do both... No support of the Trio though. Go w/ the Garmin.

Bigrenna,
Yes It just was not real clear to me with reading about the function of the Trio Pro that if you are tracking a GPS flight plan that you could but in headings and it was not real clear to me that the changes on the G5 HSI heading that it would steer the Trio Pro. SO yes thats exactly what I am asking.
On another note. I asked about the garmin 500 to come and you Bigrenna where the one to turn me on to the Trio Pro. Just sayin!