No, just not if you're insured.

maulewaco wrote:I tell ya what.... for any of you PC panty pussy's... the day you are standing at the fly-in, all bunged up and you look and wonder what the F#@K. Its me.I fly the Back country with Just cowboy boots, thong underwear and, I ALWAYS have a alligator stapled to my Nipple!!

I remember that outfit!!!!



Gump

in addtion to what 907pilot said about slow flight ,i might add to maintain your altitude during this practice. flying below the canyon wall on the way to a landing site you want to be able to maintain airspeed and the exact altitude necessary for a short landing. if you find yourself losing altitude, even by a 100 feet, you need to immediately regain that altitude or know why you're losing it(downdrafts, too slow,etc.) practice,practice,practice: something like the three things governing real estate(location, etc.).

I'm a rookie at it myself but the hard part for me was protecting the prop. Some experienced pilots taught me how to do rolling mag checks and parking techniques so you don't have to firewall the plane to get moving. I also rarely use full flaps in my 182, I prefer the reassurance of being able to go around easily. I also make sure it's done flying before I let it touch down. 65 MPH on asphalt is OK but a little rough on a lumpy grass strip.

Funny
I don't carry insurance at all on my cirrus,how u going to wreck on a big paved strip.
But I have full coverage on the CC Cub seems to easy to have an oh crap moment landing on river bars and two track roads. I guess we look at it different I want insurance when I perceive risk and pass when I feel it's low.

Blu wrote:Funny
I don't carry insurance at all on my cirrus,how u going to wreck on a big paved strip.
But I have full coverage on the CC Cub seems to easy to have an oh crap moment landing on river bars and two track roads. I guess we look at it different I want insurance when I perceive risk and pass when I feel it's low.

Gonna be a lot of money out of pocket if you ever have to pull that parachute cause there's not much left of those planes when that happens or when they run out of gas and you have to put it down out in the middle of nowhere.

Hafast wrote:

Blu wrote:Funny
I don't carry insurance at all on my cirrus,how u going to wreck on a big paved strip.
But I have full coverage on the CC Cub seems to easy to have an oh crap moment landing on river bars and two track roads. I guess we look at it different I want insurance when I perceive risk and pass when I feel it's low.

Gonna be a lot of money out of pocket if you ever have to pull that parachute cause there's not much left of those planes when that happens or when they run out of gas and you have to put it down out in the middle of nowhere.

True
If that happens and I'm still alive I'll make some more money and buy another one. And if I'm dead well......

Landing in off strips is something you dont learn in a book. A book is good for pointing out things. Landing on a gravel bar or a dirt trail takes time and practice. The first thing is building up the nerve to put your plane down in a pile of rocks. Let me ask you this, what is your plane worth to you and can you walk away from the carnage when you flip it over? I have landed on the gravel bars and on the tops of hills many times. Look over your landing field. Look for the hidden danger . Time your self , how long dose it take to fly over the area? Can you get out after you land? Leave your self an out. Do you have a long approach or is it a drop right in kind of thing? Do you have the power to get out after your on the ground? Landing on the river bank , the gravel is soft and can be down right mushey in spots. Look for banking Tirane. Holes in the gravel. Stay away from the silt if you know what that is. For the silt will get you stuck. Do you have a come along or a hand winch with plenty of rope? Most important if you use the words I think I can make it. The dont do it. If you fly with some one and they tell you I think I can make it, then its not worth it. Be safe and practice on a dirt strip. Mark off 500 ft for a start and see if you can get off the ground. The try for 450 ft. If you have a straight shot down the river your landing on the better for a long and slow approach as well as take off. Just be safe and remember your in command of the airplane. Do not be pressured in to doing something that is not safe or feels right..I have lost several friends in small planes here in Alaska.... Ken in Alaska Stinson flyer