Damn all these photos and write ups are making me want to skip out of dodge, load up and find me a remote spot and set up shop.

Hammer wrote:To keep things relevant here's another picture of a tent.

I've got that same table. Love it.

My xgk is the same stove I. The norther companion - so I'm pretty sure it will burn avgas. I've not tried it myself - I carry white gas and use it also for cooking. 100ll would be emergency. My stove has multiple jets and will burn damn near any flammable substance.

So I am not much of a camper any more.
Will just be doing some Airplane camping from here on out.
As some of you might remember Deb and I travel with everything including the kitchen sink and the dogs. Helps that the Broussard makes a good 2 place airplane with all your stuff!! 2400 lb useful!
So have decided instead of the big Tarp to invest in a light weight easy to put up TP http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/hq-issue-18-x-18-teepee-tent-woodland-camo?a=1582628 This will work with the Broussard or the Wilga
Planning on attaching to the tie down ring so will have no center pole.
Hoping the first outing will be to the Texas STOL Roundup! Will bring the Ice Cream Maker with us!
Any thoughts on what I should pack for tie downs? As they say, Size really does not matter, will have a 3 lb hammer to drive.
Thanks

Well, I know this is not your question, but I wouldn’t buy that tent. Not only is it a piece of crap, but it’s a really large piece of crap. It’s the sort of thing you’ll get three or four uses out of before a terminal rip or tear occurres, or it simply mildews into toxic waste because it’s far too large to properly dry out after every use and that cheap material mildews in a matter of days.

For all practical purposes I don’t have a weight limit in my Toyota, and I’d sleep outside in the rain or sitting upright in the drivers seat before I lugged that nylon abortion around with me, and I’m not even comfortable in the drivers seat.

Not only do I believe that tent will provide poor service, only the illusion of shelter, tear in any sort of wind, leak when it rains, give only the shortest lifespan and be far more work to pitch and strike than it’s worth, but purchasing junk like that perpetuates the cycle of manufacturing crap because if you make it cheap enough, someone will buy it. That’s not a good cycle to my way of thinking. It’s a waste of resources to make it, and another waste to throw it away.

If showing up with a gigantic shelter for amusement purposes is the goal, I’d rent a wall tent or even a bounce-house. THAT will get some attention. If the purpose is actual shelter from the elements there are infinitely better products out there. Yes, they’ll cost more money, but they’ll last, and when your done with them they can be sold or past on to someone else rather than going straight to the landfill. Considering the aircraft you plan to haul it with, price shouldn’t be much of a concern.

I realize that you didn’t ask my or anyone else’s opinion about the relative merits of the tent, but I just feel like I’d be negligent not to comment. My post after all… … …

I want an airtic oven.. maybe with a lightweight stove.

Holy Shit Hammer, who pissed in your low fat banana split. The man just wants to go out and do a little camping, not live in the damned thing all year round. Besides, we oldies want a little bit of space and luxury for our aged sore bodies. Most of us have out grown the need to get “attention” and not many of us are interested crawling into tube the size of a dog house, our backs can’t handle that shit no more.
Personally, I think that teepee tent looks pretty neat and ya gotta love the space, It’s comforting to bring all the necessities of life were accustomed too, hardship is for the birds. You can fart in that tent without completely gassing yourself to death neither. 179.00 is a pretty good starter for a shelter for the occasional camper, besides its so cheap, if it gets moldy, falls apart, or starts to stink like dog piss, you just throw it in creek somewhere, or douse it with some avgas and bacon fat, and burn it on the spot, and buy a fresh new one next year.
I had to Google what a Broussard looks like. That is one bad ass looking bird.

Hammer wrote:Well, I know this is not your question, but I wouldn’t buy that tent. Not only is it a piece of crap, but it’s a really large piece of crap. It’s the sort of thing you’ll get three or four uses out of before a terminal rip or tear occurres, or it simply mildews into toxic waste because it’s far too large to properly dry out after every use and that cheap material mildews in a matter of days.

For all practical purposes I don’t have a weight limit in my Toyota, and I’d sleep outside in the rain or sitting upright in the drivers seat before I lugged that nylon abortion around with me, and I’m not even comfortable in the drivers seat.

Not only do I believe that tent will provide poor service, only the illusion of shelter, tear in any sort of wind, leak when it rains, give only the shortest lifespan and be far more work to pitch and strike than it’s worth, but purchasing junk like that perpetuates the cycle of manufacturing crap because if you make it cheap enough, someone will buy it. That’s not a good cycle to my way of thinking. It’s a waste of resources to make it, and another waste to throw it away.

If showing up with a gigantic shelter for amusement purposes is the goal, I’d rent a wall tent or even a bounce-house. THAT will get some attention. If the purpose is actual shelter from the elements there are infinitely better products out there. Yes, they’ll cost more money, but they’ll last, and when your done with them they can be sold or past on to someone else rather than going straight to the landfill. Considering the aircraft you plan to haul it with, price shouldn’t be much of a concern.

I realize that you didn’t ask my or anyone else’s opinion about the relative merits of the tent, but I just feel like I’d be negligent not to comment. My post after all… … …

WHOA!! Sorry I brought it up!!
We have fun when we camp, Last time to JC we had a dam fine camp, can't find any photos of it, but was a pretty good time!, Had a 40 x 60 heavy duty tarp, was a bit unwieldely, but had lots of fun, We come with hanging hammocks and chairs. Deb can make breakfast for a bunch, turn some Ice cream! Amusement no, a few laughs and have a spot for a dozen folks when it rains, dam rights!
Planning on hitting all the lower 48 states that we have not got yet, going to take a couple of summers to do it.
The Broussard is a helluva camping machine.
You camp your way and we will camp ours!
Gotta have room for the queen sized bed with the side tables!
Need to have room for the 5 gallons of diesel and splitting maul to get the fire going
Hope some day to say hello and have a cup!
Looking forward to using the tie downs!
That 985 uses lots of gas, thought I would uses the $1000 dollars difference between OK tent and great tent on gas!
Ya I'm an ass sometimes, but thats just me!

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WHOA!! Sorry I brought it up!!
We have fun when we camp, Last time to JC we had a dam fine camp, can't find any photos of it, but was a pretty good time!, Had a 40 x 60 heavy duty tarp, was a bit unwieldely, but had lots of fun, We come with hanging hammocks and chairs. Deb can make breakfast for a bunch, turn some Ice cream! Amusement no, a few laughs and have a spot for a dozen folks when it rains, dam rights!
Planning on hitting all the lower 48 states that we have not got yet, going to take a couple of summers to do it.
The Broussard is a helluva camping machine.
You camp your way and we will camp ours!
Gotta have room for the queen sized bed with the side tables!
Need to have room for the 5 gallons of diesel and splitting maul to get the fire going
Hope some day to say hello and have a cup!
Looking forward to using the tie downs!
That 985 uses lots of gas, thought I would uses the $1000 dollars difference between OK tent and great tent on gas!
Ya I'm an ass sometimes, but thats just me! [/quote]

Sorry for the tone of my rant M6RV6! I could have phrased it more poetically. Actually, a chimp probably could have phrased it more poetically. What I was ranting against was the gluttonous and disposable nature of our society, but it came across as an attack, which was unintentional. Poor quality gear is a hot-button of mine, strange but true. Religion, politics and race relations just bore me, but substandard equipment makes me see red.

Monster camps and ice cream makers don’t bother me a bit. Neither do monster airplanes. It’s the perpetuation of mass produced, low quality, disposable products that winds my panties too tight.

Poor quality tents epitomize this for me in part because I rely on tents so often. I’ve had tents that lasted through fifteen years of hard use, so to see the garbage that dominates the market today and which might last a single summer more than just flummoxes me. Sort of like if they came out with a six-seat airplane that only cost $20k but the wings come off in turbulence and you had to haul them to the landfill after 250 hours.

The concept of getting a few uses out of something and then discarding it is so foreign to my mindset and way of life that it’s akin to blasphemy. That’s my prejudice and I own it. Sorry I subjected you to it.

I grew up in a family that never knew wealth. Not poor like we were going hungry, but we counted pennies and coveted dollars. From my grandfather down the lesson was always the same: “Since you don’t have any money you’d damn well better buy nothing but quality or nothing at all.”

Taking things to the dump flat out pains me. I can’t throw something away without feeling inherently bad about the waste of it all…that’s how I was raised. A person who threw things away was a simpleton and a fool…either they weren’t bright enough to fix it or repurpose it, or they were too dimwitted to buy quality in the first place.

So I’d much rather not own something than have to accept responsibility for it if the use won’t match the waste. A quick stroll through Cabelas or Bass Pro Shop or REI, much less Harbor Freight or Walmart is proof enough that I’m in the minority on that. And again, it’s my prejudice. I don’t have a monopoly on the right way to live, and though it amazes me at times, I’ve yet to be crowned King of the Galaxy.

More than anything I think you’ll find that tent to be poor shelter…hope I’m wrong and you get years of use out of it. Regardless, if I see it or anything else hanging under a Broussard I’ll come over with some cups and bottle of scotch. You’ll know me when I speak because my breath smells like feet.

Hammer wrote:

WHOA!! Sorry I brought it up!!
We have fun when we camp, Last time to JC we had a dam fine camp, can't find any photos of it, but was a pretty good time!, Had a 40 x 60 heavy duty tarp, was a bit unwieldely, but had lots of fun, We come with hanging hammocks and chairs. Deb can make breakfast for a bunch, turn some Ice cream! Amusement no, a few laughs and have a spot for a dozen folks when it rains, dam rights!
Planning on hitting all the lower 48 states that we have not got yet, going to take a couple of summers to do it.
The Broussard is a helluva camping machine.
You camp your way and we will camp ours!
Gotta have room for the queen sized bed with the side tables!
Need to have room for the 5 gallons of diesel and splitting maul to get the fire going
Hope some day to say hello and have a cup!
Looking forward to using the tie downs!
That 985 uses lots of gas, thought I would uses the $1000 dollars difference between OK tent and great tent on gas!
Ya I'm an ass sometimes, but thats just me! [/quote]

Sorry for the tone of my rant M6RV6! I could have phrased it more poetically. Actually, a chimp probably could have phrased it more poetically. What I was ranting against was the gluttonous and disposable nature of our society, but it came across as an attack, which was unintentional. Poor quality gear is a hot-button of mine, strange but true. Religion, politics and race relations just bore me, but substandard equipment makes me see red.

Monster camps and ice cream makers don’t bother me a bit. Neither do monster airplanes. It’s the perpetuation of mass produced, low quality, disposable products that winds my panties too tight.

Poor quality tents epitomize this for me in part because I rely on tents so often. I’ve had tents that lasted through fifteen years of hard use, so to see the garbage that dominates the market today and which might last a single summer more than just flummoxes me. Sort of like if they came out with a six-seat airplane that only cost $20k but the wings come off in turbulence and you had to haul them to the landfill after 250 hours.

The concept of getting a few uses out of something and then discarding it is so foreign to my mindset and way of life that it’s akin to blasphemy. That’s my prejudice and I own it. Sorry I subjected you to it.

I grew up in a family that never knew wealth. Not poor like we were going hungry, but we counted pennies and coveted dollars. From my grandfather down the lesson was always the same: “Since you don’t have any money you’d damn well better buy nothing but quality or nothing at all.”

Taking things to the dump flat out pains me. I can’t throw something away without feeling inherently bad about the waste of it all…that’s how I was raised. A person who threw things away was a simpleton and a fool…either they weren’t bright enough to fix it or repurpose it, or they were too dimwitted to buy quality in the first place.

So I’d much rather not own something than have to accept responsibility for it if the use won’t match the waste. A quick stroll through Cabelas or Bass Pro Shop or REI, much less Harbor Freight or Walmart is proof enough that I’m in the minority on that. And again, it’s my prejudice. I don’t have a monopoly on the right way to live, and though it amazes me at times, I’ve yet to be crowned King of the Galaxy.

More than anything I think you’ll find that tent to be poor shelter…hope I’m wrong and you get years of use out of it. Regardless, if I see it or anything else hanging under a Broussard I’ll come over with some cups and bottle of scotch. You’ll know me when I speak because my breath smells like feet.[/quote]

AWE!! Lookin forward to it, and if you ever get to my place, you will see I never threw anything away, same as my Dad. Fact is I have some of his stuff he brought when we moved here in 1958!!
Good stuff is good!
I pick and choose, I have some good stuff and some junk, If I need to use it once every three years it will be the cheap stuff if it works!!
I have some Snapon Tools !! everything else is somewhere between!
Again Lookin forward to that cup!!
Glad were all Different !!