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Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:27 am

Help on Coyote Hunting Rig??

OK, I have a chance to do a lot of aerial coyote hunting.
Do not need any advice on legality or permits or morals or guns! Have all of them I need!
I have a J4E that got smashed in a hangar, everything good except right behind the seat where a 60' truss fell on it with 4' of snow.
Next I have a M4 Maule project ready to put an engine and fabric on it.
Plans are to make something like a Breezy so my gunner can be in front and not shoot anything essential for flight!!
Out of all these parts I need some thoughts on which pieces to use?
Spose I can get those cub wings to fly with the short Maule wings and make a really slow pusher biplane??
Kickin the idea around.
Don't all start laughing, I'm serious!
And no I don't want to buy the Super Breezy in Yakima, but that would sure save a lot of time! Have parts but no money!
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Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:42 am

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I like the open gunning possibility but you do understand that aerial yote gunning is typically a WINTER activity right? and I thought the back seat of a super cub was cold with the gun door open burr...wait let me rephrase that BURR
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Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:46 am

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First, go talk to the FAA FSDO with jurisdiction in your area to find out if you will be permitted to use ANY of those parts in an Experimental/Amateur Built airplane. The FAA is pretty anal about that, and I've been told that if it's been used in a certified airplane, generally you cannot use it in an Exp/AB airplane.

Let us know what you find out.

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Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:48 am

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Oh I understand that it will be winter :!: , That is why the unrestricted view from the front seat :D , as the Pilot (me) :twisted: will be in an heated, enclosed area just behind the front seat!! =D>
My brother inlaw is going to be the shooter!! :mrgreen:
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Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:50 pm

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M6RV6 wrote:Do not need any advice on legality or permits or morals or guns! Have all of them I need! GT

Nice try, but i expect around here you'll probably get the advice anyway :lol:

I have a J4E that got smashed in a hangar, everything good except right behind the seat where a 60' truss fell on it with 4' of snow.
Next I have a M4 Maule project ready to put an engine and fabric on it.
Plans are to make something like a Breezy so my gunner can be in front and not shoot anything essential for flight!!
Out of all these parts I need some thoughts on which pieces to use?
Spose I can get those cub wings to fly with the short Maule wings and make a really slow pusher biplane??
Kickin the idea around.

i have been told the same thing as MTV on using certified parts for an experimental, but not sure if you kept it under the 51% rule. The advice from the other link about a phone call to the local FSDO would seem like the place to start.

Have parts but no money!
Story of my life! :lol:

the Pilot (me) will be in an heated, enclosed area just behind the front seat!!
My brother inlaw is going to be the shooter!!
Good Think'in 8)

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Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:54 pm

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George, I know where there is a couple of rocket launcher tubes from an L19! What was that Johnny Cash song about all the car parts?? You might as well but those tandem gear wheels on it too, or sell them back to me, now that I have a cub??
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Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:41 pm

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patrol guy wrote:What was that Johnny Cash song about all the car parts??

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Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:55 pm

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patrol guy wrote:George, I know where there is a couple of rocket launcher tubes from an L19! What was that Johnny Cash song about all the car parts?? You might as well but those tandem gear wheels on it too, or sell them back to me, now that I have a cub??

What's the current bid on those rocket launcher tubes? I think I have a specific use for them. Does the price include an STC?
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Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:50 pm

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John, I better PM you on the tubes!! :twisted:
I'm going to put the Whitaker tandems on the RV6 and bring it to JC this year, I just need a Baby Bushwheel to borrow for a week or so! :^o
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Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:53 pm

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Hey George,
This sounds interesting. I thought a shooter in the back-seat of an M-4 Maule would work great. Plenty of room and less chance of shooting the prop. I know a few people on the regulatory side of the house as far as commercial predator control goes. Need to call you anyway. Are you at home?


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Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:52 pm

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I hope you have the luck these guys this winter. South Dakota.
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Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:01 pm

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Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:53 am

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M6RV6 said:
Plans are to make something like a Breezy so my gunner can be in front and not shoot anything essential for flight!!


Would there be a hazard of the empties going through the prop?
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Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:03 am

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Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:45 pm

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http://www.supercub.org/forum/showthrea ... ge-picture

Try this link to see Don Sheldon's rig
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Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:49 am

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You will probably need one of these too. 22LR

Greg Miller of Big Rocks and Long Props took his Maule experimental.


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Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:05 am

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Something like this Curtiss Junior. I've ridden in one (I built the engine/tank mounts on this one) and it's a nice, comfortable ride in the front seat. Hardly any breeze and PLENTY of view!

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... vns&itbs=1

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