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Holy Ice! I want ice in my drink not on my plane!

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Holy Ice! I want ice in my drink not on my plane!

So I was working hard today and came across this video. I've never seen a picture/video of icing this bad. He of course decended and stayed alive but holy cow! He even says in the video "I've had worse!" I think he must be a ferry pilot.
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Re: Holy Ice! I want ice in my drink not on my plane!

Not playing with a full deck...Scary $#}}%^ flying.
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Re: Holy Ice! I want ice in my drink not on my plane!

Yee Haw... :roll:

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Re: Holy Ice! I want ice in my drink not on my plane!

I noticed he had an extra wide roll of TP sitting next to him :)
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8GCBC wrote:Not playing with a full deck...Scary $#}}%^ flying.


Didn't watch but about half of it but looked to me like he did just fine.

If you fly around in the clouds it will find you sooner or later.
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gbflyer wrote:Didn't watch but about half of it but looked to me like he did just fine.

If you fly around in the clouds it will find you sooner or later.


Exactly. It is what it is, and if you work or play in WX, it's just part of your day.

I've flown wx all day long in reported icing and horrible forecasts, never picking up a trace. Other days I've been out with 20 miles vis and nothing really out there, and picked up weird airframe ice that would affect the flat surfaces of the wing rather than leading edges, killing airspeed like I'd dropped a f**king anchor...

It's not fun stuff.

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Re: Holy Ice! I want ice in my drink not on my plane!

I've definitely had some myself and its true it happens when you fly in the WX. I just don't often see the pictures from others. More than I've had that's for sure!
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Re: Holy Ice! I want ice in my drink not on my plane!

That looks like only a little more than we inadvertently picked up on an approach to Idaho Falls many long years ago in our first Skylane. I don't recall it being scary so much as surprising. We'd been in and out of the clouds, my pard was doing the flying as a freshly minted IR pilot and I was a very fresh CFII. One pax in the back seat, light luggage. No ice at all until just after we'd left the FAF, then suddenly it built like crazy. I told my pard to keep the speed up, so we came down the ILS at around 100 knots. Then it started peeling off in chunks, hitting the tail with an awful bang. As each wing would get more lift than the other, we wobbled a lot, though my pard kept control well. He had only a tiny hole to see out the windshield, but by the time we were on the ground, most of the ice had chunked off.

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Repeat, but still worth watching again.







And... A timeless classic.



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Re: Holy Ice! I want ice in my drink not on my plane!

I have seen the NASA films in the past, but not the Navy film.

Not lowering the flaps probably made the difference in our experience going into Idaho Falls--not because we worried about a tail plane stall (probably didn't think about it) but just because we'd both been taught not to change the airplane's configuration during icing on approach.

The Roselawn crash in 1994 had everyone thinking tail plane stall, but the NTSB eventually concluded that it was actually a hinge moment on the wings, caused by lowering the flaps and thereby increasing the angle of attack, sending the ice farther back on the wing than the boots, almost like a spoiler built of ice. Since it happened unevenly, the pilots lost control during an uncommanded roll--the second one after they'd recovered from the first one.

Best to stay out of that stuff!

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