Just wondering if anyone has had experience running Honda Generator's on Avgas instead of gasoline?

That is pretty much all we use inthe Bushwheel Mobile Gen Set.... (Honda 1000/2000) No problems untill you get a bit of water in the carb.. clean carb no prob no mo

Thanks, It's off to the Honda Store!

100LL also works good in 3 wheelers and 4 wheelers......: Just don't use it a chainsaw....goes like hell and cuts like hell...when you try to restart it, the piston and cylinder are fused. Don't ask me how I know......

So you're saying probably not the best idea for a 2-stroke? Does the lead have an adverse effect on the 2-stroke oil? How long did you let that saw sit? What kind of mix ratio?

I use either 91 Oct car gas or 100LL in my weedeater and three chainsaws 'cause they start so much better than straight 87 Oct with ethanol..the two MCulloch chain saws are over 25 years old..just mix it in a ratio of 40:1 with 2 cycle oil..most any brand of 2 cycle oil.
The waste gas that I sump the plane goes in a 5 gal gas can at the hangar..when it gets full I dump it into my 1959 John Deer 730 tractor..never had a problem.
HC

Glad you posted hicountry. I run everything at home with 100LL; chainsaw, weed eater, leaf blower and 1950 Ford 8N. So far I haven't had any problems but I do add MMO to all equipment and run a little rich on the oil for 2-strokes. The weed eater and tractor are a lot less cold blooded with the 100LL and not as hard to restart after a long run on a hot day.

Z is probably going to split this thread. But does anybody run 100LL in their old dirt bikes, street bikes? I have a buddy that has an old 1960's Norton that he runs 100LL with. Any suggestions on carb settings? Any bad experiences with running 100LL in an old 4 stroke street bike? He is a highly experienced motorcycle mechanic, so I'm sure he's already on top of it. I just now thought about this.

AKGrouch wrote:100LL also works good in 3 wheelers and 4 wheelers......: Just don't use it a chainsaw....goes like hell and cuts like hell...when you try to restart it, the piston and cylinder are fused. Don't ask me how I know......

I attended a class taught by a Stihl Factory rep. He was adamant that you never put more oil in the gas than specified. He stated you will do more damage to the engine by over oil than NO OIL! WTF?

I use 100LL in my Honda 2000EI I was told after a while the lead will foul the plug and clog the spark arrester not a big deal to clean.



Cheers...Rob

RobBurson wrote:

AKGrouch wrote:100LL also works good in 3 wheelers and 4 wheelers......: Just don't use it a chainsaw....goes like hell and cuts like hell...when you try to restart it, the piston and cylinder are fused. Don't ask me how I know......

I attended a class taught by a Stihl Factory rep. He was adamant that you never put more oil in the gas than specified. He stated you will do more damage to the engine by over oil than NO OIL! WTF?

I use 100LL in my Honda 2000EI I was told after a while the lead will foul the plug and clog the spark arrester not a big deal to clean.



Cheers...Rob

The problem with putting in two much oil is that there is only so much fuel going through the main jet. Add to much oil and your leaning it to the point it will burn the piston. Its pretty simple once you think about it.

I still cringe at the shops that say we always add a little extra oil when they are new

Hijack alert...Rob is that your tent? Any pireps on it? GoLite makes a fantastic similar product, but it costs more so I've been wondering if the extra pounds of the Cabelas version are worth saving a few bucks...though my experience with the GoLite line is such that my tendency is definitely to hold out for that one...

Never have run 100LL in a 2 stroke but I ran my lawn mower B&S engine for several years on 100LL with good performance.

Just don't tell the EPA !!!

RobBurson wrote:I attended a class taught by a Stihl Factory rep. He was adamant that you never put more oil in the gas than specified. He stated you will do more damage to the engine by over oil than NO OIL! WTF?





Cheers...Rob

Very True!!! You are LEANING the mix more if you add EXTRA oil and your temps will go up and Squeek the piston sooner than later!!

I never thought about it much, but now it makes perfect since. I can guarantee that is only true to a point, to much oil that is. When you reach the way to much oil, the engine will last forever, because it won't run on 90% oil. he he he

Good day

I don't need to mix gas/oil in my '32 Crosley dump truck...the rings are so bad that enough oil bypasses the rings to lubricate everything..it used to be a 4 cycle and now it's a 2 cycle.
HC

I don't need to mix gas/oil in my '32 Crosley dump truck...the rings are so bad that enough oil bypasses the rings to lubricate everything..it used to be a 4 cycle and now it's a 2 cycle.

I understand that! I used to have a '59 Chevy I bought for $50.00 that consumed about a qt/day until it came to a noisy death when something inside the engine wanted to be on the outside.

TomD wrote:

I don't need to mix gas/oil in my '32 Crosley dump truck...the rings are so bad that enough oil bypasses the rings to lubricate everything..it used to be a 4 cycle and now it's a 2 cycle.

I understand that! I used to have a '59 Chevy I bought for $50.00 that consumed about a qt/day until it came to a noisy death when something inside the engine wanted to be on the outside.

We had that problem a couple of times with the race car...and were we using 100LL...damn scary when the rods want to leave the engine..and expensive too!

1SeventyZ wrote:So you're saying probably not the best idea for a 2-stroke? Does the lead have an adverse effect on the 2-stroke oil? How long did you let that saw sit? What kind of mix ratio?

The saw sat for about 30 min while I had lunch. Wasn't a mix. I grabbed the 100ll gas can for the 3 wheeler by mistake and fueled the saw up for one more tank of cutting before lunch. The heat from the extra octane and no oil mix fused the rings and cylinder together. When I tried to start that saw after lunch, the rope would not budge. I then marked my saw gas can "Stihl Stupid!!" with a wide magic marker. It's still marked that way so I don't accidently put avgas in it. I still have the piston in my tool box to remind me......used to carry it on the dash of my truck for a few years. The whole exercise cost a bit less than $200 to fix. I will say that a saw on raw 100LL cuts like hell and goes like hell........ONE TANK FULL!!!! and then.. it's

AKGrouch wrote:

1SeventyZ wrote:So you're saying probably not the best idea for a 2-stroke? Does the lead have an adverse effect on the 2-stroke oil? How long did you let that saw sit? What kind of mix ratio?

The saw sat for about 30 min while I had lunch. Wasn't a mix. I grabbed the 100ll gas can for the 3 wheeler by mistake and fueled the saw up for one more tank of cutting before lunch. The heat from the extra octane and no oil mix fused the rings and cylinder together. When I tried to start that saw after lunch, the rope would not budge. I then marked my saw gas can "Stihl Stupid!!" with a wide magic marker. It's still marked that way so I don't accidently put avgas in it. I still have the piston in my tool box to remind me......used to carry it on the dash of my truck for a few years. The whole exercise cost a bit less than $200 to fix. I will say that a saw on raw 100LL cuts like hell and goes like hell........ONE TANK FULL!!!! and then.. it's

I've seen that same thing happen in a Stihl saw run on straight auto gas. One tank and done. Brand new saw, too. I don't think it was the 100 LL in your case- I think it was the lack of oil in it. I've been in a pinch when weedwhacking my tie-down area, and sloshed in 100 LL and some 15W-50 into a Stihl weedwhacker. Ran fine then and still runs fine.

mr scout wrote:
I still cringe at the shops that say we always add a little extra oil when they are new

My hotshot and smokejumper buddy tells me that her crew would break in every new Stihl by idling through an entire tank of mix. Done that with my MS 270 and my MS 460 Rescue saws, but hard to tell if it makes any difference.