The B 36TC came with 100 gallons standard fuel. I doubt this was a 36 TC. The 36's have two ten gallon aux wing tanks as optional equipment as well, and I'd bet the vast majority of A-36s are ordered with them. If so, that would be 100 gallons total fuel, not all useable.

MTV

I am not that interested in how much fuel that plane can carry. What I want to know is how far out of his performance envelope was he. As a percentage, how over gross was he. Probably none of the planes we fly will fly as far out as he was.

Talk of I should have done this or that is useless. He should have never done his run up. In the case of my bigest dumb ass mistake, I should have not answered the cell phone while fueling my plane which was a major distraction which led me to leaving my port side fuel cap off which led to me running out of fuel while on an IFR plan headed north.

Luckily, Sharon complained of smelling gas fumes and the light bulb came back on. I reversed course and made it back to Medford, ran out at 8,000 and dead sticked it into the big airport. I am not proud of this accomplishment.

I learned that my 182B has more usable than book says. Do I flight plan with this new knowledge, NO I DON'T. My plane will carry at least 100 pounds more than book and I do not plan for that either.

Tim

This accident reminds me of another that happened up in Weaverville a few years ago. http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20010820X01733&key=1 I'm not picking on Bonanzas--there are boneheads flying other airplanes and most of the rest of us pilots aren't perfect either.

CAVU

You forgot to mention that the pilot in the Bonanza at Weaverville was a doctor.

Tim

You forgot to mention that the pilot in the Bonanza at Weaverville was a doctor.

Tim

qmdv wrote:You forgot to mention that the pilot in the Bonanza at Weaverville was a doctor.

Tim

That's right! Maybe I was being too generous after all . . .

CAVU

mtv wrote:The B 36TC came with 100 gallons standard fuel. I doubt this was a 36 TC. The 36's have two ten gallon aux wing tanks as optional equipment as well, and I'd bet the vast majority of A-36s are ordered with them. If so, that would be 100 gallons total fuel, not all useable.

MTV

The B36 has two 54 gallon tanks as the only fuel tank offered, 102 gallons usable. No A36 has anything other than one tank in each wing, either the 25 gallon standard tank or the 40 gallon extended tank. It's possible to get external tip tanks but not from the factory.

qmdv wrote:I am not that interested in how much fuel that plane can carry. What I want to know is how far out of his performance envelope was he. As a percentage, how over gross was he. Probably none of the planes we fly will fly as far out as he was.

An A36 will have a useful of approx 1550 pounds. The aircraft did not have tip tanks so his fuel weight would have been 480 pounds max. That leaves approx 1070 pounds for people and crap. We'll have to wait for the investigation to see what was in there.

Bonanza man,

Take a look at the factory options list for all models of A-36, ON THE TCDS. I did--Optional 10 gallons per side. From the factory.

MTV

I see the source of the confusion now. Those 10 gallon tanks are for the H thru K model 35's as well as the same year Debs(33's) back in the late 50's. They are listed as "Wing Aux System" under each applicable model. Once Beech went to the 25 gallon standard and 40 gallon optional tanks for all Bo models in about 1961(N35) and 1962 for the 33's the 10 gallon tanks were deleted. The aux tanks had their own filler port making four gas caps total. No Bo after this date ever had the aux tanks, nor could they as there wasn't room anymore in the wing.