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Re: I think this is Pat 58Skylane

I've seen those video's somewhere :wink: Actually, that first video is from Joey. He sent it to me on FB :P So he needs the credit on that one. Shoot, the second one might have been from him too :-k

I'd like to see that 2 stroke in person someday.

When I was a kid, I always knew it was the Alpha Beta GMC grocery truck coming from a mile away to make his delivery at the corner grocery store. Those Detroit Diesel 2 strokes were loud. When I got my CDL when I was 18, Alpha Beta Grocery stores was the first place I went to put an application in (I wanted to drive those GMC Detroit Diesels so bad). Unfortunately for me, I had to be at least 25 years old because of insurance reason. But the one question on the application was "Have your driven a truck equipped with the Detroit Diesel?" I guess it's kind of tricky to drive those trucks with that engine.
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I drove American LaFrance fire engines 30+ years ago that had Detroits. They had automatics. They ran strong and pumped strong but they didn't like a lot of idling-which FE do a lot of. Consequently maintenance tended to be an ongoing issue. Your right, they had a sound all their own that could be heard and appreciated (or not) for a several blocks. To me, it is still music. =D>
The small department I was on in SoCal had two 'front line' ALF pumpers. One was a 1500 gpm and the other was a 2000 gpm pumper. If I'da stayed, my retirement would now be nothing short of 'WOW'. #-o

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We had some 8V71 Detroit's in 1978 vintage fire rigs. They were dogs. Obviously needed more boost. The exhaust turned out the right side just in front of the duals. It lined up right at face level for the libtards sitting in the bus shelters. Now if you put your foot to the floor on takeoff it would smoke just like the video shows.
I know how to win friends and influence people you might say. Always slowed down for those intersections to catch the light. Even better when it was pouring rain with little wind. The black smoke would just hang in the shelter. :twisted: Oh lifes simple pleasures :mrgreen:
Almost as much fun as running the duals down the gutter in the rain watching that wall of water crash over the side walk. Never could figure why people would stand buy those large puddles.
They got even with us. Called at 3 in the morning, drunk, watching cable TV, smoking and wanted help with what ever because welfare didn't pay for 3 am service calls. [-X


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"Have your driven a truck equipped with the Detroit Diesel?" I guess it's kind of tricky to drive those trucks with that engine.

Big thing was to keep them wound up and not lug.
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Had a 353 in a Michigan payloader and a 8V71 in a '70 Kenworth cabover with a two stick 4X4 Spicer tranny. That took some getting used to but it had enough gears to keep the engine wound up. To shift both sticks and you'd maybe have to put your arm through the wheel to steer and shift the two sticks at the same time. With the Detroit you had to be careful of the down shift and down hill engine braking with a warm engine. That thing is nearly air cooled and the incoming cold air rush combined with the drop off of combustion heat could shrink a hot head so fast it would crack it. Probably why drivers were asked if they ever drove a Jimmy D.
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They did liked RRRRRrrrrs....(RPM)
The automatics chose all the shift points, but they DID find their powerband at the high Rs.
These two ALF ran strong. Of course that is comparing it to the other fire trucks I/we ran. International, Ford, Chevy, Pirsch, and an older Mack open cab ladderwagon.
The Pirsch was in GA.-Decalb Co.

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This one is for Rob after reading his post

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http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-D4Pmot ... _mud_hole/ Hey Pat enter your truck in the redneck yacht club,, But it could take some time to wash the mud off,,
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Put a lot of miles on Freightliners with 318 Detroits (8V71's) and 671's 6 clyinder in-lines back in the early 70's into the mid 80's. The only way you could get any power out of them was drive 'em with your foot on the floor! Better watch out when going down a long grade..there was very little engine braking (unless you had a Jake) when you went down a hill. They put a lot of 3 cylinder Detroits in AC bulldosers and LeTeurno (sp) equipment. Very rare to hear one wound up now. The only one in our country is a scraper that uses a 4 cylinder Detroit as a rear helper engine. If you had to sit or sleep in them very long in the cold, the motor wouldn't provide much heat for the heater and you would freeze your ass in the cab. I think the biggerst reason they don't make them any more is they aren't EPA compliant.
I grew up listing to these SCREEMING Jimmies....don't very often hear one now.
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AvidFlyer wrote:This one is for Rob after reading his post



That pretty well sucks. [-X
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Hi there, been a lurker for a while, first time poster. (Just a student pilot hoping to be able to fly my 582 powered taildragger out of my dads farm one day)

The truck races in the first post, I've been going every year for the last 4 years with my father's Peterbilt 379. That event is a wild party! I don't race, i just park the truck and drink beer for 3 days. Being 23 years old now, I look pretty good to the girls showing up there with a shinny pete with a sleeper when 3/4 of the people there sleep in tents. :lol: :lol:

just thought I'd add a bit to the thread, about time i post on here

PS before you call me out for being a liar, you can get your transport license as early as 18 years old here. I believe it's 21 in the states? (I'm a canuck from Northern Ontario)
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What kinda 582 bird do you have?
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PS before you call me out for being a liar, you can get your transport license as early as 18 years old here. I believe it's 21 in the states? (I'm a canuck from Northern Ontario)


Another trucker on BCP?? Welcome FF. I got my CDL in California when I was 18. I'm not sure if the minimum age has changed these days.
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PS before you call me out for being a liar, you can get your transport license as early as 18 years old here. I believe it's 21 in the states? (I'm a canuck from Northern Ontario)


Another trucker on BCP?? Welcome FF. I got my CDL in California when I was 18. I'm not sure if the minimum age has changed these days.

18 to get the CDL, must be 21 to go interstate or haul haz mat.
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FarmerFranck wrote:
PS before you call me out for being a liar, you can get your transport license as early as 18 years old here. I believe it's 21 in the states? (I'm a canuck from Northern Ontario)


Another trucker on BCP?? Welcome FF. I got my CDL in California when I was 18. I'm not sure if the minimum age has changed these days.

18 to get the CDL, must be 21 to go interstate or haul haz mat.


Oh damn! So when I had my permit at 18 driving all over the U.S., I was illegal??? :shock: Shame on me [-X [-X
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Glidergeek wrote:
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FarmerFranck wrote:
PS before you call me out for being a liar, you can get your transport license as early as 18 years old here. I believe it's 21 in the states? (I'm a canuck from Northern Ontario)


Another trucker on BCP?? Welcome FF. I got my CDL in California when I was 18. I'm not sure if the minimum age has changed these days.

18 to get the CDL, must be 21 to go interstate or haul haz mat.


I knew there was something about being 21, thanks for the clarification.

AvidFlyer wrote:What kinda 582 bird do you have?


Its a Macair Merling GT. It had been sitting in a hangar/barn for a few years. Got all the material scruffes fixed and new lexan glass and overhead fuel tank. Now the expensive part, a new blue head to replace the 300 hour, 10 year old since rebuilt, gray head that's sitting on it now. (For those who don't know, "grey head" and "blue head" are variants of the Rotax 582, the latter being the newer revision)
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10 of these pay for one of those (reading left to right) :D
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Glidergeek wrote:10 of these pay for one of those (reading left to right) :D
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That's what that picture was you sent me?? LOL. My work cell phone doesn't show pictures very well. Very cool pic, Russ!!
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AvidFlyer wrote:This one is for Rob after reading his post



is that what blowing smoke out of your ass looks like
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