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Question regarding what constitutes GPS when it comes to ICAO Equipment (replacing FAA Equipment).
When I'm filing a flight plan - for my equipment - can I list "G" for gps if I'm using Foreflight and getting a WAAS GPS source from my Garmin GTX 345 - does that qualify as GPS equipped? for VFR only of course.
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corefile wrote:Question regarding what constitutes GPS when it comes to ICAO Equipment (replacing FAA Equipment).
When I'm filing a flight plan - for my equipment - can I list "G" for gps if I'm using Foreflight and getting a WAAS GPS source from my Garmin GTX 345 - does that qualify as GPS equipped? for VFR only of course.


I doubt it. But why do you care? It’s not like those equipment codes really mean anything in the VFR world.

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The /G is only for IFR certified GPS equipped aircraft. It get convoluted with TSO-129 Vs TSO-145/146 units. Basically if filing an ICAO flight plan /G would not apply.
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The ICAO codes are a convoluted nightmare that I've never been able to make sense of. Fortunately, many of the online flight planning solutions take your information and transpose it to ICAI format. I know the AOPA flight planner does, and flight plans prepared on the 1-800 wxbrief system both make the conversions. Once those programs have created an ICAO legal flight plan you can print it out and see what the codes for your equipment are. Many of the systems we have in our planes have to be entered in multiple places on the ICAO form. It is not user friendly!
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VFR flight plan you can use /G for anything up to a Ouija board, including your iPad and Foreflight - as MTV says nobody cares. For an IFR flight plan /G means an IFR certified GNSS receiver (the receiver and the installation).

All you are really trying to let ATC know is whether you can go direct if they clear you direct.
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Yes they do care and can get excitable about it (in Mexico they will gently correct you). If your going to Iceland, for example, they will get all on their hind feet if you don't file correctly. In Europe they can be downright twits and charge extra handling charges (remember, just for an everyday normal flight from Athens to Scotland, $790 Euros) if you get it wrong. Yes, it is simply G if your a regular WAAS GPS, S for transponder, if your ADS-B Compliant E. All the other stuff has to do with RVSM separation equipment. Remember, if your GPS isn't WAAS, outside USA, you cannot predicate and file as a G.

A whole lot of the world has no working radar or nav equipment. It is there on the charts, just doesn't work. ICAO will fix stuff, but they are real slow. The locals don't care. Typically it is an electricity supply thing, no fuel for the generator, or the grid is down. Some places will swing the radar antenna for looks, but the systems is long dead. Like Greece, lowest standard of living in Europe (quote from "Time Bandits"). I finally got suspicious when they cleared me to decend into a mountain. I asked, "Decend before or after the mountain?" "Uhhhh, after." So I went over to the tower and looked, everything was dead and the approach control guy was using a plotting board.
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Sorry, I should have said that nobody in the US or Canada gives a rat's butt what code you use FOR VFR.

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