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Instrument Training Question

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Re: Instrument Training Question

Mapleflt wrote:Here an interesting regulatory difference from North of the 49th parallel, to deliver IFR instruction an instructor rating isn't required. Does all instruction have to be delivered by an endorsed person or could you go flying with an experienced, trusted person. I'm assuming there is a minimum amount of time that must be log with an certified instructor but could you gain "working knowledge" under an experienced pilot's guidance. Learning IFR, basic IFR skills and retaining the skills is all about practice and currency. If it's doable find a "knowledgeable" and skilled IFR pilot for some OJT exposure.



Indeed,

All but the last 15hrs of instruction (including the 3 hrs prior to the end and dual cross countries which need to come from a II), can just be simulated instrument with anyone


I’ve done this with some students too, it’s a shame the FAA won’t allow a CFI with something like extensive 135 single pilot IFR training captain experience, to just send in proof and then add the add on for free, cost of checkrides has gone up and up



§61.65 Instrument rating requirements

(d) Aeronautical experience for the instrument–airplane rating. A person who applies for an instrument–airplane rating must have logged:

(1) Except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section, 50 hours of cross-country flight time as pilot in command, of which 10 hours must have been in an airplane; and

(2) Forty hours of actual or simulated instrument time in the areas of operation listed in paragraph (c) of this section, of which 15 hours must have been received from an authorized instructor who holds an instrument–airplane rating, and the instrument time includes:

(i) Three hours of instrument flight training from an authorized instructor in an airplane that is appropriate to the instrument–airplane rating within 2 calendar months before the date of the practical test; and

(ii) Instrument flight training on cross country flight procedures, including one cross country flight in an airplane with an authorized instructor, that is performed under instrument flight rules, when a flight plan has been filed with an air traffic control facility, and that involves—

(A) A flight of 250 nautical miles along airways or by directed routing from an air traffic control facility;

(B) An instrument approach at each airport; and

(C) Three different kinds of approaches with the use of navigation systems.
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mtv wrote:For the OP: Is your plane a Carbon Cub EX of some flavor, or is it a homebuilt? You noted in your initial post only that it was experimental. That covers a lot of ground.

I suspect that the CC machines MAY be likely to posess all the required instruments/electronics, but I'd sure verify that against the regs.

Obviously, the same applies to a homebuilt. I've seen quite a few homebuilts with just one screen, and I'm pretty sure that won't meet the requirements. Maybe....

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Seems like lots of those NXs have the main screen and a small backup (G5 like) on the left side, as well as a GFC autopilot on the right, I’d wager that would be good to go, but I’d also nearly promise you’ll end up shooting a full approach off that smaller backup (which is still full glass), just follow the smaller FD or have the AP follow it
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