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landing mishap

A friend of mine sent me this link, a video of a landing mishap on a grass strip.

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My first view, I thought the landing airplane (a maule) just lost directional control.
The second time watching, I realized that this might have been the case, but also his wing hit another airplane parked tail-on (and apparently too close) to the runway which seemed to start the swerve.
My take-aways....1) it's always a good idea to eyeball the runway environment for possible obstructions.
And 2) always park out of harm's way just as much as possible.
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Our buddy Juan Brown already broke this one down. Yes, he did hit the 172 tail.
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Re: landing mishap

Looked like he was a little late on the rudder correction, PIOed a bit and wasn’t on centerline

Another angle

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Recently saw this one, guy ground looped a WAR Corsair



Watch the centerline even on the takeoff

I think folks need to tighten up their margin of acceptable precision, I’ve seen this a bit recently, some people will accept a certain amount of slop before they correct, when that “margin” is bigger the corrections need to be bigger and take more skill to fix, issue is what is the likely skill level of a person who is OK with a wider margin to start with.

Spec for recurrent checkrides is your mains need straddle the centerline, around the water cooler you get shit if your nose/tailwheel isn’t on the centerline

I see tons of GA folks where the centerline is a good way beyond one of their main gear, but rudder locked center with no obvious attempt to correct

Correct to AT LEAST keep the centerline between the mains and you won’t have to correct to keep the plane on the runway


Having 6 grand of tires seems pro, till the guy with a N model 172 with no mods gets in better, shoulda spent that ABW money on some basic take off and landing training
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Re: landing mishap

Apparently he prefers the left side of the runway

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This seems to have also occurred while he owned the maule

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Big planes or small planes. I fly both and one thing is consistent. Always fight for the center line.
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And some wonder why insurance is so expensive.
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Looking at overhead pics of the fly in that show the damaged aircraft, why in the bad word is everyone parked so close to the runways when there is LOTS of room BEHIND the planes in most areas to park them further back away from the runway instead of lining them up right on the edge?

Juan Browne has a pretty good breakdown of it and some really good pics of the fly in from overhead. I like to get as far off the runway as possible just for reasons such as this. I would rather have my tail in the trees instead of lined up on the edge of the runway.
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Really sucks to see bent metal at a big fly-in. I watched the Juan Brown video and thought he did a good job breaking down the accident. Supposedly a Husky also crashed on the same weekend. Really feel bad for the innocent victim planes and for the pilots who made the mistakes. Few take homes for me.

1. Don't show off at a Fly-in unless you've got the flying chops. Lots of cameras are on now and there is just no reason to do anything outside of one's abilities. Landing short just to show off is not a good reason for landing short. Landing short on a long runway during gusty winds is also not a good plan.

2. Be careful how you park your plane at a busy Fly-in. Get your airplane pushed back as far as possible and consider parking it away from the touchdown area. This strip is apparently a bit narrow at 50 feet. Likely not a lot of good parking options. It looked packed.

3. Accidents happen unfortunately - Glad nobody was hurt and there is always something to learn. My insurance rate went down this year. Not sure how this is related other than accidents happen and insurance is a business. If nobody fucked up we wouldn't need insurance. Accident rates are statistically flat. I know because I am doing a FIRC right now. Last one. My CFI expires on 11/30/24. The new rule change for the RED expiration starts December 1st, 2024.



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Re: landing mishap

When lots of people are around, like fly ins, I do the most boring nothing special landing with the available space. But, that said, I often avoid fly ins because of the weekend flyers that have perhaps watched a few too many YouTube videos.

I did go to the UBCP fly in at Smiley Creek July 5th. I had a Super Cruiser pass 200 feet below me while I was on downwind just about to turn base. I saw his shadow on the ground coming toward me just before I saw him. I had been making all my radio calls, guy in the Super Cruiser hadn't made a single radio call. He did a 180 after he passed under me and followed me in, but did correct me when I referred to him as red Super Cub on the radio.

I also park on the right side of the runway when possible. I figure if someone is going to botch a go around I'd prefer not to be where someone with lazy feet might end up, but far enough from the end that a take off ground loop happens before he gets to me.
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How were the damaged airplanes removed from the area? Looks like an island from the few overhead pictures I saw.
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