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Re: low pass

Other video's show the gear being down. Hard to say from that distance but he may have been overshooting the runway, kicked the rudder and over she went.
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Re: low pass

Engine failure?
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Re: low pass

Translated caption says engine failure on one side. Very sad. Lost two like that within a few weeks at KAPA in Denver a few years ago.

Statistically, from what I've read, the primary difference between singles and twins is where the engine-out landing/crash ends up, not how it turns out. Singles land or crash where they quit, twins generally get somewhere near an airport before they land or crash. Very little statistical difference in actual success/failure outcome between the two--rather, mostly just a difference in final location.

(I'm not smart enough to drive a twin, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this)
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Re: low pass

If you were inbound for a lowpass/ buzz job, and had throttles way up with lots of speed , the prop that was working with power still would definitely throw you around real quick. Unfortunately the ground was in the way. Sad
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That's a pretty classic Vmc roll--airspeed below blue line, powering up because of being too low, and the left one goes and the right one hiccups. The 2 at KAPA were followed by one at Fort Collins Downtown just before it was closed, and the NTSB files are full of other examples. That's why I've chosen not to be a twin driver--staying current for events such as happened here takes too much time and $$ for the amount of real usefulness I'd have for a twin.

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Re: low pass

There's also mention of a wire strike on short/low final.
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Not so sure that was a vmc roll, he was hauling there. Our king air's blue line is 125kts...this wasn't a 350 but I can only imagine its less than 125. I think he just lost and engine and bit it in. Happened real quick nose never came up it looked. Stinks to see. Nothing to fear in multi engine aircraft but it's good to remember that it can become a handful if not attended to quickly enough.
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Re: low pass

some of you guys with lots of experience, correct me here, but it looked to me like he was doing an uncoordinated sliding turn and stalled the inside wing and kind of like an accelerated stall, over she went. just my observation.
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Translation of another video regarding the same crash:

"A twin-engine airplane, privately owned, crashed near the airport Captain Rolim Adolfo Amaro, Dawn in the Village, in Jundiai, around 14:30 this Friday (20). The pilot and copilot were killed. According to the Civil Police, the aircraft had just taken off en route to Sao Jose do Rio Preto, when the pilot noticed that the engine had lost power. He contacted the control tower and advised that he would return, but during the maneuver, the plane [rolled] and crashed into the ground, causing an explosion. The aircraft crashed about 300m from the airport in a pasture Storani of the Technical School, close to Avenida Antonio Pincinato. The Fire Department was called to control the fire and four vehicles were on the scene. Previously, the corporation said it had four occupants on board, but the information was not confirmed."
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Re: low pass

Always try to turn into the good motor.
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Re: low pass

A machine like this should be able to fly forever on one engine. It looks like the guy was in a big hurry, for whatever reason, to get the thing on the runway and stalled/spin. It is hard to tell from the angle of the video, but it looks like he still had to turn another 60-90 degrees to line up with the runway. Pretty low and late for that. It is easy for me to judge though, sitting here in the safety of my computer chair.
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Re: low pass

I am struggling with this one. If he was on approach, then his power would be back and Vmca would not be an issue. If he was doing a low pass his airspeed would be much higher than Vmca and even with a sudden power loss on the critical engine, control issues at those speeds wouldn't be difficult. I think that could have been an accelerated stall. It did look like he was uncoordinated trying to correct back to runway centerline, plus it happened really fast. If he was attempting a go around, and put full power on with an engine out it could be possible, but I don't think it would happen that fast. The video is blurry, but it doesn't look like the gear is down.
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There were several post crash videos that show the gear being down. You are right, the roll rate would indicate something other than the nice straight ahead power off stall we all practice.
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New reports from Brasil say that the pilot, Rui Barbosa Martins, was not qualified in the King Air and had put another pilot's name (with himself listed as a passenger) on the flight plan in order to get permission to take off. Two souls on the flight plan but only one body in the wreckage.

"The plane, belonging to a businessman from Rio Preto, underwent maintenance in Jundiaí airport in recent days. The rider Rui Barbosa Martins Junior died in the crash charred and was the only board the aircraft as the Air Force confirmed. ... Rui Barbosa had no qualification for the type of aircraft that crashed, but had courses and other documents to pilot models of private aircraft. One of the suspects is that he has identified the presence of another pilot, qualified to fly the aircraft, to circumvent its lack of documentation."

Google translated from: http://ifronline.blogspot.com/2012/04/p ... ndiai.html


Bringing this back to BCP turf, the crash video was shot from the local flying club ramp, where these can be found:
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