Hey guys, I’m chasing some advice on gloves from those who are used to cold! Coming from a bloke whos never seen snow and only seen ice floating on the top of a nice cold lemonade, who’s quite used to a 53 c day ( 128 F ) and seems to think anything less that 10 c ( 50 F ) is the beginning of an ice age, I have no idea!

As you can imagine, it gets a tad cold in the drifter, And I have a Samsung smart pad thingy with my flight planning software I use in flight. I had a great pair of fleece gloves Ive loved for years and on my recent flight to chinchilla, while taking one off to check my pad, it got sucked out the side at 7500 feet. With 3 hours at that height left to run, I can assure you it was a very sad moment.

A couple of people have told me you can get gloves with touch screen compatible index finger and thumbs tips. But looking around I have only been able to find what I thought look like quite flimsy gloves with this ability. I was wondering of any of you fellas out there (I’m looking at you Alaskans and Canadians mostly!) might be able to recommended a good pair of warm and comfortable gloves with this ability?

I’ve seen a pair from a brand called north face of which is a brand I came across as all you guys seem to be wearing there kit in your videos so I take it there half decent, but the gloves I could find with what they called an E-tip seemed quite thin. Having said that they may still be really good so ill wait for feed back!

Thanks in advance!

I finally got the Maule sealed up so you don't feel like your at McMurdo station while flying in the winter so I haven't tried it yet, but this was on my list of things to try: http://www.instructables.com/id/Making- ... ch-Screen/

For me, it was because almost no one makes my style of choice to begin with, much less with conductive thread built in. Here's what I like, most of the flexibility of gloves with most of the warmth of mittens: http://www.rei.com/product/856607/pearl ... ike-gloves

Cut a hole in the glove for your finger.

Just how much protection so you need? Glove philosophy varies depending on your activity. Snow skiing requires a waterproof shell, so I usually use a liner + shell combo, though my liners (Mountain Hardwear) are pretty decent alone. It's nice to have a single glove though that protects from cold wind (open cockpit) and isn't so bulky that it robs you of dexterity.

Hestra is a top brand:

https://hestragloves.com/en-us/gloves/o ... ve-finger/

...though you will pay handsomely.

Searching for "touchscreen gloves" also brings up a lot of options.

The problem is that touch screens read heat, so any glove that a screen will react to has to be thin and the thread that let's the heat out your finger tip also lets the cold in.

Have you looked at fishing supply sights? Lots of fly fishermen use wool fingerless gloves that have a mitten sown to the back that can be flipped over your fingertips.

Looks like you have the same problem with your hands being exposed to wind and the cold, and still having to be able to turn tiny knobs and push small buttons. Like you, with heavier gloves I could not operate push buttons and small knobs, though I do not have a touch screen to deal with. You said you found a pair of thinner gloves that would work with the touch screen, and you might what to see it they work with how I took care of exposed hands in freezing temps

I layered up, putting on a pair of silk gloves first, then a pair of nomex, and then a pair of fine leather motorcycle gloves that are very supple and normally worn alone. With all three, I've handled below freezing temps over the Rockies at 12,500 ft, with a stick hand that is directly exposed to the wind of my blistering 55 mph. In fair weather, I just wear the nomex and silk glove, and I'm fine with that.

The important thing for me was being flexible enough to operate my avionics, and for the leather glove not not have a big blunt end that would have prevented me from operating my glass panel and com buttons. It might work for you if you used the silk gloves and nomex layered up with the other glove you are looking at. The photos only show the nomex, but shows how my hand is exposed and obviously needs something, and the necessity of tactile flexibility for the avionics.

I've always found wool pop top mittens to be useful when hunting in cold weather. The mitten flap velcros to the back of your hand, so you get the warmth of mittens and the dexterity of fingerless gloves. They're so warm that I usually hike with fingers exposed, and put the flap down only when sitting and waiting for long periods. Easy to pop the top to pull the trigger (or work your dials), then cover those fingers back up if needed. These are $10 US.



http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/game-winner-174-men-39-s-thinsulate-153-insulated-rag-wool-gloves/pid-613657


Here's the Cabela's version, which are heavier and have a pocket for heat packs. $35 US.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Clothing/Mens-Hunting-Clothing/Mens-Hunting-Gloves/Mens-Insulated-Hunting-Gloves%7C/pc/104797080/c/104748480/sc/104358780/i/104000580/Cabelas-MT050reg-Extreme-II-Glomitts/1222750.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fmens-insulated-hunting-gloves%2F_%2FN-1102427%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104000580%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253B%2BLNcat103999680%253Bcat104358780&WTz_l=SBC%3B+LNcat103999680%3Bcat104358780%3Bcat104000580

Wow thanks for the input guys, i really never new there was so
Much to know about gloves! Always thought the difference was thin ones and thick ones!

Those pop top ones seem Like a good soloution! I might try and track a set of those down.

Its looking like they may be the best idea as on one leg is my samsung pad which is inductive, that suprisingly somties works with the glove on but i cant get any accuracy, the other leg is my iphone which is capacitive and doesnt seem to work with anything but skin, the pop tops will work with anything, be cheaper and still give me accuracy.

Zenithguy wrote:Looks like you have the same problem with your hands being exposed to wind and the cold, and still having to be able to turn tiny knobs and push small buttons. Like you, with heavier gloves I could not operate push buttons and small knobs, though I do not have a touch screen to deal with. You said you found a pair of thinner gloves that would work with the touch screen, and you might what to see it they work with how I took care of exposed hands in freezing temps

I layered up, putting on a pair of silk gloves first, then a pair of nomex, and then a pair of fine leather motorcycle gloves that are very supple and normally worn alone. With all three, I've handled below freezing temps over the Rockies at 12,500 ft, with a stick hand that is directly exposed to the wind of my blistering 55 mph. In fair weather, I just wear the nomex and silk glove, and I'm fine with that.

The important thing for me was being flexible enough to operate my avionics, and for the leather glove not not have a big blunt end that would have prevented me from operating my glass panel and com buttons. It might work for you if you used the silk gloves and nomex layered up with the other glove you are looking at. The photos only show the nomex, but shows how my hand is exposed and obviously needs something, and the necessity of tactile flexibility for the avionics.

Thats one hell of a cockpit you got going there, what aircraft is that? A quicksilver?

Thats one hell of a cockpit you got going there, what aircraft is that? A quicksilver?

Yes, a Sport 2s. Did a lot of long cross countries with it and that's why the avionics and such. You can't just pull out a chart to check airspace when there's a good chance it'll go through the prop. Because of the glass panel and GPS, my workload was minimal, I could spend pretty much all of my time just looking around and enjoying the view, just like your picture in the Drifter. I still always had a chart in my kneeboard, however, but just goofing at at 1,500 agl and keeping an eye on the GPS when needed is what I wanted, and got. I wanted to smell the terrain, not watch it blip past at 5,000 agl. Probably just like your Drifter.


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DrifterDriver wrote:Its looking like they may be the best idea as on one leg is my samsung pad which is inductive

True story? That looks like a Tab and I thought they had capacitive screens. Further, I thought inductive screens were pretty much dinosaurs and no one used that for credible electronics (which Samsung definitely makes) anymore. Or maybe inductive screens work in the southern hemisphere and capacitive ones in the north?

rw2 wrote:

DrifterDriver wrote:Its looking like they may be the best idea as on one leg is my samsung pad which is inductive

True story? That looks like a Tab and I thought they had capacitive screens. Further, I thought inductive screens were pretty much dinosaurs and no one used that for credible electronics (which Samsung definitely makes) anymore. Or maybe inductive screens work in the southern hemisphere and capacitive ones in the north?

in that case I'm running with the fact I'm quite wrong haha

I have no idea, i just got told by someone that's why my Samsung sometimes works with the gloves on but the I phone has not a hope. Im an electrician so I understand how they both work, but as to who uses what, and which is in my machines I wouldn't have the fist clue!

I'm like 98% sure all modern touchscreens are capacitive. I'd just find a good set of gloves or glove layers that work for you and then just weave some capacitive thread through the fingertips you'll use. Should be much cheaper than purpose-built touchscreen gloves.

I had no idea capacitive thread even existed! to me a capacitor is something used in parallel for power factor correction.....not thread haha Ill look around for some!

Cabela's leather, thinsulate snow machine gloves with gauntlets ......well below zero. Chemical hand warmers in my palm, close to the fingers to heat the blood......the anterior side of all digits have two arteries...at 5 and 7 o'clock. A slit cut in the index finger to slip my finger through when using the GPS. Stitched like a button hole.....Corse the GPS has to be inside.....the warmest snow suit Cabela's sells.
Mark M.
Platinum Ak

DrifterDriver wrote:I had no idea capacitive thread even existed! to me a capacitor is something used in parallel for power factor correction.....not thread haha Ill look around for some!

You are correct. It's actually conductive thread that connects the capacitor that is the human body through the glove to the sensor on the tablet.

rw2 wrote:

DrifterDriver wrote:I had no idea capacitive thread even existed! to me a capacitor is something used in parallel for power factor correction.....not thread haha Ill look around for some!

You are correct. It's actually conductive thread that connects the capacitor that is the human body through the glove to the sensor on the tablet.

You're right! I meant conductive thread!

Oh gosh, I'm glad I have an enclosed cockpit and a good heater! Even then, I have very sensitive hands--froze them when I was 19 and stupid and now they're getting pretty arthritic, and so I need to wear gloves in any temp under about 55 F. My airplane's heater keeps me comfortable down to about 20-25F OAT. I have thin leather gloves for in the cockpit if the heater isn't quite keeping up with the cold (only time I wear them, so they stay in the airplane), and when it gets down to near zero, the same gloves I use on my motor scooter are pretty good--those are heavy Carhartt leather with Thinsulate insulation, about $40.

Because both the thin leather gloves and the Carhartts are too thick to use for anything but pretty big buttons or knobs, I just yank off my right glove with my teeth to reset my avionics bare handed, then put it back on right away.

If I was to be flying in one of your little flivvers, though, I think I'd have to go to electrically heated gloves.

Cary

If I was to be flying in one of your little flivvers, though, I think I'd have to go to electrically heated gloves.

I used those until one went out over the mountains on my stick hand in below freezing temps, and before I could get to a landing strip at a blistering 55 mph from 11,000 ft, I had frostbite on my right hand, a first for me. Since then I used the three layer approach with no problem. I do use chemical heat pads in my boots when necessary, and have never had a problem with core temps when wearing my snowmobile suit.

I already have the holder for my hot coffee in my Zenith 750, which is now doing taxi tests. One day I might even be able to eat a sandwich while flying, what's next, a pee jar?