These guys keep spamming me. Anyone else getting contacted? I guess it's because I have my light sport website and they think I will import them.

Interesting little unit. I wonder if it's one of those cases where they reverse engineer another manufacturer's unit and build their own? LIke the Russian M14 or Australian Rotec. Here is the email I received:

Hi, I am Vincy from Shanghai Chen Industrial company. Our company was established in 2006 by Sadler radial engine LLC (USA) in Shanghai, specializing in SADLER RADIAL ENGINE. We hope to establish business relationship with you.

American company manufacturing in Shanghai? Hmm.

Chen Industrial Sadler radial

It is a cute little motor........ Wonder what the cost is ?
If the chinese are smart they would sell it below cost just to saturate the market... How about 2,400.00 US dollars ?

Sweet! Ask them for a couple of free samples so you can evaluate it.

Stol wrote:It is a cute little motor........ Wonder what the cost is ?
If the chinese are smart they would sell it below cost just to saturate the market... How about 2,400.00 US dollars ?

Somewhere in there I saw $5,999. Not sure if that is cost or suggested retail.

It's got to be tough to get into the engine game these days.

After seeing the quality of the Chinese Motorcycles, I would never get behind that thing in an airplane no matter what it cost!

After seeing the quality of the Chinese Motorcycles, I would never get behind that thing in an airplane no matter what it cost!

I agree!
I work for a real big container and tanker shipping company. I have been doing business for years in Chinese shipyards and component manufacturing companies for ship equipment. What I have laerned is that you can never trust a Chinese manufacturer. Coruption is everywhere. Material testing certificates are forged in all of the foundries and steel mills. Quality assurance is a freakin joke.

Let's not forget the drywall.

Remeber, You get what you pay for. Nothing more.

OR-you could buy early Chinese quality (remember early Japanese crap?) and use the money you save to buy lavish life insurance to make your little lady celebrate your recent existence........

Lc

There was indeed a Sadler radial engine that was being promoted for the experimental market several years ago. No idea if it was a good or bad engine. This might be a rip-off of that design, or a legitimate license agreement, or who knows what kind of arrangement between Sadler and the Chinese.

The Chinese are capable of making good products and bad products. Their license built MiG's fly well enough to be functional to some degree (probably not near as good as what Boeing makes for 20 times the money). The question is whether the manufacturer of this engine is one of the higher quality ones or the lower quality ones. The average Chinese worker may or may not have the built-in concern for flight safety that the equivalent American (or German, or Italian) worker would have.

I suggest the "Harbor Freight" test be used for an aircraft engine. Most of us will go to Harbor Freight for a hammer or a rolling parts cart or a mover's dolly, without a second thought. But for a torque wrench, or a medical laser for performing eye surgery on children... probably warrants a much closer look-see and some verifiable testing.

That being said, the Chinese electric aircraft (Yuneec e430) is apparently usable, reliable, well built, and represents a reasonably good value compared to other alternatives.

obxbushpilot wrote: What I have laerned is that you can never trust a Chinese manufacturer. Coruption is everywhere. Material testing certificates are forged in all of the foundries and steel mills. Quality assurance is a freakin joke.

I don't mean to sound as though I am China bashing, but it seems as if your experience is similar to mine. I worked in China and saw some pretty dodgy manufacturing going on. When the contaminated pet food and milk stories broke it came as no surprise at all.

Whether it is machine tools, cars, or motorcycles I have yet to see a product that appears to be well made, well engineered, or that inspires confidence. There is no way I would trust a Chinese-made aircraft engine.

I had a Chinese company trying to sell me carbon fiber parts for motorcycles. I talked them into samples and they were pretty decent for the money. But, a little heat shield, or a fender is not essential to keeping a bike on 2 wheels. I have seen Chinese motorcycles and will not touch one.

You are all forgetting the Chinese Cessna Fly Catcher... only two of them crashed during the test flight phase.

I noticed the engine has a even number of cylinders,The saddler engine had 5(odd) I believe saddler dropped the engine becouse of some fuel intake problems that they couldnt fix.

Sadler background story here:
http://www.landings.com/_landings/ganflyer/sep19-1997/Sadler-For-Sale.html

Sadler specs here:
http://www.ultraligero.net/Descargas/Manuales/Constant%20Pressure%20Engines/R1765U.htm

Cute little motor..I wonder how they would work in a back country Maule?

Throttle Pusher wrote:I noticed the engine has a even number of cylinders,

I noticed the same thing. Radial engines have to be odd cylinder numbers because of the way they work, but this one is two rows of three... Interesting..

EZFlap wrote: The average Chinese worker may or may not have the built-in concern for flight safety that the equivalent American (or German, or Italian) worker would have.

Italion worker, as if. Had a friend that had an Italian race car, a type 61 Maseratti (birdcage) that I worked on. You could tell what part of the car was made after lunch.

Tim

Comes with motor mount?

Stol wrote:It is a cute little motor........ Wonder what the cost is ?
If the chinese are smart they would sell it below cost just to saturate the market... How about 2,400.00 US dollars ?

65HP What are ya gona put that on? I fly RC with engines bigger than that,,,,almost,,,Ok not quite. But still not until they can compete with a O360 will they hav a marketable engine.
That thing is little more than a toy.

172heavy wrote:65HP What are ya gona put that on? I fly RC with engines bigger than that,,,,almost,,,Ok not quite. But still not until they can compete with a O360 will they hav a marketable engine.
That thing is little more than a toy.

I hope I don't distress your sheltered little world, but airplanes do come in a variety of sizes. The first Piper J3 Cub only had 40 hp before moving up to a 65 hp engine. Some other planes off the top of my head that have used 65 hp engines:

Aeronca Chief
Luscombe 8A
Taylorcraft
Piper J4 Cub

and a whole slew of experimental 1 and 2 seaters.

Some other planes off the top of my head that have used 65 hp engines:

Aeronca Chief
Luscombe 8A
Taylorcraft
Piper J4 Cub

We've been slow-rolling the building of a Pietenpol Aircamper for he past, oh, dozen or so years, for which a 65hp radial would be ideal. But not from China!

We've been lusting after the Rotec:

http://www.rotecengines.com/R2800/R28.html