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New to me Super Stinson

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New to me Super Stinson

Yesterday I finally took delivery of the plane I've wanted since I first seriously considered ownership.

My Granddad had a metalized Stinson 108-3 when I was a kid and I always thought it was the classiest looking of the planes that frequented our home strip. Others were all Cessna trikes, and not that theres anything wrong with them per se, but that Stinson really appealed to me.

Eventually the time came when my wife and I agreed that ownership could be a reality a couple years down the road. I of course started reading up on Stinsons now through grown up (older anyway) eyes and was quite happy to see what a good reputation the ol' Stinson has. I never liked the big tail but I knew I wanted the baggage door. More power was a must so it was settled, I was looking for a 108-2 with a 220 in it, simple right?

I hunted and hunted and came to the conclusion that I may as well be hunting leprechauns. The right plane in the right condition with reasonable hours on the right engine was as rare as whale feathers.

I went back to the drawing board hoping to increase my chances of finding a plane that met most of my needs as well as wants. There are a great many more Pacers to be had than there are Stinsons, and with their capabilities, make damn fine planes. After a less exhausting hunt I tracked down a Pacer in NY that you may remember reading met its demise in a crosswind on the ferry flight from NY to LA.

God is good and the insurance man was kind so I got what amounted to a do-over on airplane ownership. Figuring I'd never be insurable again in a pacer, I cast my gaze back to the well regarded Stinson, they say you can ground loop one, but you have to be trying pretty hard. Whether thats the case or not, I don't know but it got me looking for one again. This time my resolve was strong and I decided I'd hold out as long as it took to find one......or I could look for a few months and then start considering 182s when I hadn't found the right Stinson yet.

Fortunately, after a call for available examples of each to sit in, a fellow BCPer came through with the right plane.

She (the plane) made the trek from the Kenai Peninsula all the way to the red rocks of Utah where I took ownership as well as the reigns on transport to Oxnard. There were several options discussed, a couple attempted but in the end, a good friend of mine with a much more open schedule agreed to do the job. At 4 A.M. one morning he, an A&P, and another companion set out from the LA basin for a LONG day that was planned to end in Oxnard. The plane had other ideas as the alternator or voltage regulator quit early in the journey rendering the evening portion of the trip a no-go. Most of a week and a bit of head scratchin' later a plan was devised and executed. A good charge was put on the battery, the alternator belt removed and the plane brought all the way home in the daylight.

The plane's a 1947 108-1 whose serial number allowed it to be born with a baggage door. The other -2 feature is the rudder trim system which was added when installing the PZL Franklin 220 in 2000. The plane was restored from the ground up during the same time frame by Dick Ward of Chenango Forks NY whose name seems to be highly spoken of in Stinson circles, anybody here know of him?

The interior is a solid 9.5 and exterior more like an 7.5, the instrumentation is somewhat dated (Loran, ADF) but in excellent condition, the engine runs smooth and sounds as badass as any non radial I've ever heard. There are a few items that need taken care of but I hope to be getting familiar with her within the next few weeks.

Stand by for a barrage of first time owner questions from me,
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Hot diggity. Glad it all worked out in the end. That is a nice looking bird.
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Wow! Really sharp airplane! Get some video up so we can hear that sweet motor!

Have you gotten to fly her yet? I like the interior!
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That is a beautiful looking and well equipped airplane. Congratulations on the success of your search. The challenges you've seen to this point will only prove to make ownership more fulfilling and adds a great deal of ownership/purchasing knowledge to your database. I look forward to some proud owner trip reports in the coming months and years.

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Congratulations on a beautiful and classic airplane.

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Congratulations!! Sure is a beauty!! Have fun flying her!
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I'd suggest making some wood blocks to put under the gear when it's in that hangar.

If a tire goes down while it’s in there, it's going to damage the opposite wing. Murphy's Law, and all.

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Great looking plane.
Join the international Stinson club,and all you questions will be answered.
Ps. I didn't know you could hang a pzl 220 on a dash 1.
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Beautiful, just beautiful. She'll put a smile on your face every time you mash that throttle to the firewall.
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Thank goodness you finally got what you wanted a tailwheel airplane that you can fly after all the SZP -Citarbra rentals. 220 Stinson looks good -hope your still working on your A&P because you'll need it to keep this going . Fly it often and have fun.
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182 STOL driver wrote: ......hope your still working on your A&P because you'll need it to keep this going . Fly it often and have fun.


If I didn't know better, I'd think that sounded like a jab! FWIW I doubt that new Super Stinson is gonna need any more work to keep going than any other 50-year-old-plus airplane (which includes a helluvalot of us here on BCP). I will agree that it's hard to fly on a budget if you have to hire all work done. I'm pretty mechanical and am lucky in that I have A&P / IA friends who know and trust my wrenching abilities and are willing to let me work under their loose supervision and then sign off what I've done.
Congrats on that new airplane! It looks great, I'm sure you'll have lots of fun. I'm glad you were finally able to get your dream airplane. Me too-- I've wanted a Cessna 180 for over 15 years, I finally bought one last month.
Upgrading to modern avionics is pretty easy, although not necessarily cheap. IMHO about all you need these days (for VFR anyways) is a simple com, simple transponder / encoder, and panel-mounted intercom. You can buy all that stuff new for somewhere in the neighborhood of $3K, pus installation-- all at once, or bit by bit if money is tight. Plus some sort of GPS-capable device-- if you already have an ipad, get an app or two for it. Or just buy an old Garmin x96 series like my 196-- cheap, reliable, and able to navigate long trips or complex airspace with a single bound.
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Get out flying in the cool California desert sunshine! Great news!

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Wow, beautiful Stinson. It brings back a lot of good memories seeing your dreams come true. Well done!

Please let us know what you think of it when you get some time under your belt.
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Awesome! Congrats! I've got a friend about to sell their Stinson to build a Super Stinson. Look forward to some vids and pics!
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Very very nice, you will love the Stinson. All that white interior would not work out so good with moose blood all over it :twisted:
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Congrats! My 108-1 is metalized and came with a partial Super Stinson "kit"- 220 Frank on a pallet needing to be rebuilt, the CS Mac, and all the FWF bits. Hoping to make the move from the 150 next winter :)
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Congrats, as a new owner for a whopping 2 months I know your excitement. Enjoy that plane, she looks beautiful.
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8GCBC wrote:Get out flying in the cool California desert sunshine! Great news!

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Hahahahahaha. Were you the guy that loved his LORAN?
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Zzz wrote:
8GCBC wrote:Get out flying in the cool California desert sunshine! Great news!

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Hahahahahaha. Were you the guy that loved his LORAN?


I had a LORAN for nautical navigation and it was .... Let's say "interesting at best"! Those boxes are dangerous! Glad they dumped the program fast after NAVSTAR (GPS). Opinion.
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hotrod180 wrote:.......Upgrading to modern avionics is pretty easy, although not necessarily cheap. IMHO about all you need these days (for VFR anyways) is a simple com, simple transponder / encoder, and panel-mounted intercom......


I took a closer look at the panel photo-- looks like you've got all you need (even for light IFR) with the KX155, the Terra min-com & mini-txp, and the audio panel. Dump the Loran, and add a handheld GPS of some sort, and you've got it all covered. Maybe keep the ADF for listening to the ball game. :P
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