Backcountry Pilot • Night Flying Over Mountains

Night Flying Over Mountains

Share tips, techniques, or anything else related to flying.
69 postsPage 1 of 41, 2, 3, 4

Do you fly in the mountains at night.

Poll ended at Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:27 pm

No cus it just scares the crap out of me.
38
76%
Yes cus I have so much faith in my superb piloting skills and my 50+ year old plane
12
24%
 
Total votes : 50

Night Flying Over Mountains

Is it just me. I am scared shitless to fly at night over the High Sierra or the Rocky Mountains. Or even the mountains that surround me. What do you guys think about that?

Tim
qmdv offline
User avatar
Posts: 3633
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:22 pm
Location: Payette
FindMeSpot URL: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/face ... I5tqEOk0rc
Aircraft: Cessna 182

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Nope! Not in a single engine if I dont have to. If its a must climb real high and follow a road.
aktahoe1 offline
User avatar
Posts: 2052
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:22 am
Location: Alaska and Lake Tahoe = aktahoe
If it looks smooth, it might be. If it looks rough, it is...www.bigtirepilot.com ...www.alaskaheliski.com

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Would I walk into a black bar in Boston and say "I am from LA and the Celtics suck" Not unless I had to.

Tim
qmdv offline
User avatar
Posts: 3633
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:22 pm
Location: Payette
FindMeSpot URL: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/face ... I5tqEOk0rc
Aircraft: Cessna 182

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

qmdv wrote:Is it just me. I am scared shitless to fly at night over the High Sierra or the Rocky Mountains. Or even the mountains that surround me. What do you guys think about that?

Tim


You puss :D

I used to do a lot of night & night under the hood until I lost oil pressure over a dry lake bed during the day in my last plane a 170. Night over mountains is risky, I'll fly over the desert to Las Vegas, Pheonix or up the Owens at night but crossing high mountains and continuous terrain you really have to have a good reason.
Last edited by Glidergeek on Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Glidergeek offline
Supporter
User avatar
Posts: 1937
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:02 pm
Location: Hesperia
Aircraft: 1968 P206C
DG 400

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

I will be looking forward to seeing the vote count. After a lifetime of fixing things.... it is apparent to me that mechanical stuff just breaks. Everything, eventually.
I want to glide down, pick my spot... and be home with my family within a resonable amount of time... when the old engine packs it in. Not likely to turn out well at night.
39 years of flying... and the old log book only has 100 hours at night. Pure chicken.
flightlogic offline
User avatar
Posts: 616
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:51 pm
Location: Prescott
Flying is dangerous. If you think otherwise, you are new at this sport. Mind the gravity not the gap.

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Nope, not for this little black duck
soaringhiggy offline
User avatar
Posts: 711
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:22 pm
Location: Kimberly, ID
48 Stinson 108-3

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

For myself I find it risky enough to fly at night over the flats with a single engine. Flying over the mountains at night is out of the question for me.
svanarts offline
User avatar
Posts: 1393
Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:18 pm
Location: Modesto, CA
Aircraft: 7AC (65HP) Aeronca Champ (borrowed horse)
Six Chuter Skye Ryder Powered Parachute

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Night time is for drinking & copulating, resume flying the next morning after a good cup of coffee
Vick offline
User avatar
Posts: 823
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:21 pm
Location: Grass Valley, CA
FindMeSpot URL: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/face ... WUk8CX06AP
Solum Volamus

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Vick wrote:Night time is for drinking & copulating, resume flying the next morning after a good cup of coffee


No night missions :D :?: Above the covers :lol:
Glidergeek offline
Supporter
User avatar
Posts: 1937
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:02 pm
Location: Hesperia
Aircraft: 1968 P206C
DG 400

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Glidergeek wrote:
Vick wrote:Night time is for drinking & copulating, resume flying the next morning after a good cup of coffee


No night missions :D :?: Above the covers :lol:


Single-engine at night with an ejection seat is a completely different proposition, still not a lot of fun though. NVGs help considerably.
Vick offline
User avatar
Posts: 823
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:21 pm
Location: Grass Valley, CA
FindMeSpot URL: http://share.findmespot.com/shared/face ... WUk8CX06AP
Solum Volamus

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Well, I fly a lot of places that in the day would not be much better if Charlie let me down at the wrong moment. At least at night you can't see what's coming =D>

Earlier this summer I flew VFR out and back in to Henderson Executive (Vegas) from the south on a moonless night. Reminded me of my night rescue boat missions on Powell :shock:
onceAndFutr_alaskaflyer offline
Posts: 1319
Joined: Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:23 pm
Location: Keweenaw Peninsula, Michigan and Carson Valley, Nevada

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

qmdv wrote:Would I walk into a black bar in Boston and say "I am from LA and the Celtics suck" Not unless I had to.

Tim


Tim's List of Biggest Fears:

1. Night flying over mountains
2. Black bars*
3. Basketball rivalries
4. Gay sailors
5. Cross threaded fuel caps
6. Curving sections of I-80
7. Rock chucks
Zzz offline
Janitorial Staff
User avatar
Posts: 2855
Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:09 pm
Location: northern
Aircraft: Swiveling desk chair
Half a century spent proving “it is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Hmmmm, you guys would NOT like flying for a living north of the Arctic Circle.... Lots of winter months with 150-200 hours a month logged, 50 to 100 of those hours logged as night. Each month. Single engine.

But in all reality... Some CFIT's here and there, but I can't recall a single person hurt during my time up there, as the result of an engine failure and forced landing at night.

I love night flight, and will continue to do it (until it catches me!!!)

Gump
GumpAir offline
User avatar
Posts: 4557
Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:14 am
Location: Lost somewhere in Nevada
Aircraft: Old Clunker

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

In years past ,when I was getting paid for flying I flew nights in Helicopters (military ) and single/multi engine nights (135 small package @ bank notes) .When I'm not getting paid for it -Local to keep current but otherwise no.
182 STOL driver offline
Posts: 1529
Joined: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:27 pm

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Zane wrote:7. Rock chucks


Are those like woodchucks but meaner?
onceAndFutr_alaskaflyer offline
Posts: 1319
Joined: Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:23 pm
Location: Keweenaw Peninsula, Michigan and Carson Valley, Nevada

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

I did a night flight through Lake Clark pass once in the late fall before the snow was on the mountains. Scared the crap out of me (was a fresh 60 hr pilot). I have done it a few times in the winter and its not bad if you have a little moon light or stay close enough so your strobes light up the snow on the mountains. Given the choice I would not do it just on a whim, but under the right conditions its actually very beautiful on a full moon night winging through a nice mountain pass. You need to add a few more options to the pole :mrgreen:
akavidflyer offline
User avatar
Posts: 521
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:36 pm
Location: Soldotna AK

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Tim, can you add a couple of answers to your poll??

3. Yes! Because I fly a Cirrus with a parachute :D

4. Yes! Because I fly a Cessna 185 with a Big Pponk 550, STOL kit, big fat tires, O2 system, fly at FL16,500 FT MSL, full IFR equipped and I have extensive back-country flight training and experience. (or something like that :D ) (and By the way...... I mean no offense to my 185 friends! I was thinking about that cartoon video about that 185 pilot flying into JC)

:D :D
58Skylane offline
User avatar
Posts: 5297
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: Cody Wyoming

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

It's pretty enough on a moonlit night over the flatlands if I were to ever forgo cocktail hour. I've flown at night over mountains bringing my plane home but I have never planned to go out at night just for fun (after I got my PPL). It is beautiful but so many things have broken on my plane (new) that I try very very hard to minimize risks.
rjb offline
User avatar
Posts: 173
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:38 pm
Location: E16

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Zane wrote:
qmdv wrote:Would I walk into a black bar in Boston and say "I am from LA and the Celtics suck" Not unless I had to.

Tim


Tim's List of Biggest Fears:

1. Night flying over mountains
2. Black bars*
3. Basketball rivalries
4. Gay sailors
5. Cross threaded fuel caps
6. Curving sections of I-80
7. Rock chucks


You forgot....Spelling Bee :lol:
Hafast offline
User avatar
Posts: 557
Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:05 pm
Location: KDVT
Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.

Re: Night Flying Over Mountains

Hell with night flying, day flying over the mountains scares the $#!T out of me.

Heck, night flying might even be better. At least I won't see what I'm about to hit when the fan stop spinning. [-o<
GroundLooper offline
User avatar
Posts: 1168
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:52 pm
Location: Vancouver, WA
BCP Poser.
Life is good. Life is better with wings.

DISPLAY OPTIONS

Next
69 postsPage 1 of 41, 2, 3, 4

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

Latest Features

Latest Knowledge Base