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No room for error

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Re: No room for error

Very nicely done. Deceleration, on short final, requires increased pitch which requires increased power to touchdown.
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Very nice and really like the drone views.
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Are you seeing much gravel rash on the leading edge of the tailwings?

With the combination of higher touchdown speeds throwing more rocks higher up, very low horizontal stabiliser ground clearance at touchdown, and higher tire pressure disturbing more rocks (compared to say, Carbon Cub, in all three criteria) - I am interested to hear how you're finding it wears on the plane/

Nice to maintain a good cruise speed if you can get away without three large tires.
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Battson wrote:Are you seeing much gravel rash on the leading edge of the tailwings?

With the combination of higher touchdown speeds throwing more rocks higher up, very low horizontal stabiliser ground clearance at touchdown, and higher tire pressure disturbing more rocks (compared to say, Carbon Cub, in all three criteria) - I am interested to hear how you're finding it wears on the plane/

Nice to maintain a good cruise speed if you can get away without three large tires.


Horizontal Its all beat up, and looks horrible.
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I rode to Missouri University and back to Springfield on Ozark Airline's DC-3s. The pilots said the dimples in the wings (from hail) made them go faster, like a golf ball.
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It's funny how a well flown plane, even one with major performance differences (faster, heavier) compared to what I am used to, still "look right" when flown to their max potential. From what I've seen in your videos, you'd have no problem with my 400' 16% grade, 5640' ASL runway. Anytime you are passing by my area and want to give it a shot, PM me. SE Idaho.

The grade helps so much, I got a bit surprised after I cut in another runway recently on another part of my property, 700' long, BUT about only 3% grade, thus almost more of a challenge ! I land slopes so much I almost need to re-calibrate my eyeballs when landing flat.
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Great video... thanks for sharing. How much do you think your use of AoA improves your landing performance?

motoadve wrote:Horizontal Its all beat up, and looks horrible.


I've seen the leading edge protection devices available... boots, tape, etc. I'm somewhat surprised that nobody has developed a solution for the underside of the horizontal stab. Seems like a thin layer of rubber or polyurethane applied to the underside might be worth it to some operators.
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slowmover wrote:Seems like a thin layer of rubber or polyurethane applied to the underside might be worth it to some operators.

That bedliner stuff would be great protection, but adding that much weight that far back on the plane probably is not a great idea...
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slowmover wrote:Great video... thanks for sharing. How much do you think your use of AoA improves your landing performance?


motoadve wrote:Horizontal Its all beat up, and looks horrible.


I've seen the leading edge protection devices available... boots, tape, etc. I'm somewhat surprised that nobody has developed a solution for the underside of the horizontal stab. Seems like a thin layer of rubber or polyurethane applied to the underside might be worth it to some operators.

I kind of learned to fly with the AoA, since I had no backcountry instructor, after I got my PPL and I was going to learn on my own, was one of the first things I bought.
Its more accurate than an airspeed indicator, gives you more information than a stall warning, its over the glare shield in your peripheral vision, allows you to squeeze as much performance as possible from the plane, I really like it, I bought one for my CJ6 Nanchang, as soon as I bought the plane.

I might try that putting some thin rubber under the H stab, good idea, for sure should help
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Check with your IA. They are pretty fussy about putting stuff on control surfaces. You want them to work as designed. That horizontal stabilizer is an upside down wing, you know.
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contactflying wrote:Check with your IA. They are pretty fussy about putting stuff on control surfaces. You want them to work as designed. That horizontal stabilizer is an upside down wing, you know.


Yes will check with the AI, dont want to screw up the aerodynamics.
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JP256 wrote:
slowmover wrote:Seems like a thin layer of rubber or polyurethane applied to the underside might be worth it to some operators.

That bedliner stuff would be great protection, but adding that much weight that far back on the plane probably is not a great idea...

Stone deflectors/mudflaps on the mains?
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motoadve wrote:I kind of learned to fly with the AoA, since I had no backcountry instructor, after I got my PPL and I was going to learn on my own, was one of the first things I bought. Its more accurate than an airspeed indicator, gives you more information than a stall warning, its over the glare shield in your peripheral vision, allows you to squeeze as much performance as possible from the plane, I really like it, I bought one for my CJ6 Nanchang, as soon as I bought the plane.


Thanks for the answer! I've considered one for years but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
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