Nimpo Lake = Civilization? You gotta be kidding!

OregonMaule wrote: Call me a wuss, I just don't care.

Ditto. I just don't get "it". Fellow wuss's unite!


http://www.vhemt.org/ I just saw a reference to this outfit in an article on an entirely different topic. I thought maybe it would go well with snakes and stuff.

http://www.vhemt.org/ I just saw a reference to this outfit in an article on an entirely different topic. I thought maybe it would go well with snakes and stuff.

...now there's some dots to connect!

I guess our friend the Maule Guy and all his video's are crazy to?
Swingle and Patrol Guy, Quit it!!
Coyote, Damn YOU!!
Hell looks to me like he is on his game and living!
How about those guys on here who ride motorcycles, Damn I wouldn't want to ride one of those!!
Hell he F'd up and got to slow before he got to shallow. How do you know where the edge of the envelope is if you don't look?
Glad Lonnie didn't get hurt, aircraft is just a piece of equipment, they can be bent and repaired, as they should be.
Guess we better all get in the Aircoupe and fly safe!!??
GT

I've never understood this frequent conflict between someone who says "that's too dangerous for me," and the guy who takes offense at the first guy labeling his favorite activity "dangerous." The same thing is going on in that motorcycle thread right now regarding riding streetbikes. Some undies are getting creased because one person's expression of unacceptable risk doesn't align with his own.

So what? It's all risky. Some of us are willing to accept the consequences; Others aren't. Expressing where you stand on the matter isn't an insult. It seems to me that rebutting as if it were is a form of self-affirmation. Neither will change the mind of the other guy; The same for publicly stating your limits as if you're a better decision-maker than the next guy. I've had people all my life tell me that I'm nuts, yet I've always known people willing to push it much further, whether it was flying, skiing, moto, climbing, bmx, whatever. The story of Shane McConkey tugs on my heart pretty hard because it's ambiguously tragic and triumphant. I go back and forth on it a lot. Read up on him and you'll understand why: He's a beloved legend, but the cost was high. I will only speak well of the man for the rest of my life.

I'd like to make a plea for everyone showing respect. The real measure of a man is whether he can walk away from mishap without hurting anyone, climb back into the saddle with a lesson learned, and not owe anyone any money.

Well said Zane.

Zane wrote:I've never understood this frequent conflict between someone who says "that's too dangerous for me"

I guess from my perspective, the issue is the guy who says, "That's too dangerous for ME" so therefore, "YOU" can't do what you do anymore.

It all boils down to the right to be stupid and foolhardy in someone else's eyes, as long as you aren't endangering any innocent lives. Now educated and informed co-conspirators... If my buddy and I want to fly under a rock arch at night. Inverted with a sling load. In combat.

That's another thing.

Gump

Zane
I guess you have a better way with words and happen to be very articulate!
I think what I was trying to say is the same as you, but sometimes hoof and mouth plagues me.
I did not mean to argue some one else's point, just share mine as in a discussion??
Mayhaps that's why I have to many ex's

I'd like to make a plea for everyone showing respect. The real measure of a man is whether he can walk away from mishap without hurting anyone, climb back into the saddle with a lesson learned, and not owe anyone any money.

And I would like world peace??

Thanks for trying Z, but some of us are lost!!
GT

My wave of pontification has passed... just gassy I think.

Well put Zane and others.

Risk is quite relative as well depending on ones experience and Loni's pretty darned experienced. Maybe he was pushing his envelope and managed to get over the edge or maybe he was well within his envelope and just got an caught by something unexpected. Maybe he was just trying to land as short as possible. As someone told me recently, nothing lets one land shorter than digging the tail into the sand. I'm glad he survived and hope he's back at it again soon, continuing to inspire us armchair pilots.

Hell, I'm lucky I don't flip my airplane every time I land on a 5000' paved runway, so it can be said I'm always pushing the envelope.

There's also the risk/reward angle too. Maybe I don't find waterskiing very rewarding? How would I even know? I've never tried it. Count me "in" for the flying under the arch/bridge while inverted though. I've never done that either but it just seems more rewarding I guess. I'm not sure about the night time though. Maybe.