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Passenger in cargo area.

Can a person legally ride in the cargo area with no seat or seat belt? Thanks
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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Not unless they're wearing a parachute (as in a skydiving gig), or proper retention harness, as in aerial photography.

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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Thanks Mike
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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Even as a skydiver, videographer they still need to be belted.
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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Rob, even if you didn't get the 5th seat base option in your Maule, the seatbelt mount points are there.
Passenger does not need the seat, just the seatbelt. I argued that one with the Fairbanks AK gado or fisdo or whatever it was called in the late '70s, and won the discussion.
If not using the #3 and #4 seats you can use one of those belts at the #5 seat area position.
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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Of course, this brings up the question, how do you determine which loves you more, your wife or your dog?

Answer (aviation oriented): stuff each of them in the baggage compartment of the airplane for 30 minutes, and see which one is glad to see you at the end of the time. :mrgreen:

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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

OregonMaule wrote:Can a person legally ride in the cargo area with no seat or seat belt? Thanks


The one exception is when they are in a casket... #-o
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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Bigrenna wrote:
OregonMaule wrote:Can a person legally ride in the cargo area with no seat or seat belt? Thanks


The one exception is when they are in a casket... #-o


Thread drift alert, but determining the W&B of a casket was part of my PP check ride. Anyone have a guess as to the process?
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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Hammer wrote:
Bigrenna wrote:
OregonMaule wrote:Can a person legally ride in the cargo area with no seat or seat belt? Thanks


The one exception is when they are in a casket... #-o


Thread drift alert, but determining the W&B of a casket was part of my PP check ride. Anyone have a guess as to the process?


Is there are special "casket station" for the moment arm? Or must you compute the centroid of the casket?
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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

What kind of sick-o carries a casket in their airplane anyway?

Seriously though...you balance the casket on a sawhorse and mark the point of balance. (I assume you use a piece of removable masking tape, not a permanent marker.) When you put the casket in the airplane, calculate 100% of the casket weight at the station of the point of balance.

Always thought that was a neat trick.
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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Hammer wrote:What kind of sick-o carries a casket in their airplane anyway?

Seriously though...you balance the casket on a sawhorse and mark the point of balance. (I assume you use a piece of removable masking tape, not a permanent marker.) When you put the casket in the airplane, calculate 100% of the casket weight at the station of the point of balance.

Always thought that was a neat trick.


You had a DPE with a very macabre sense of humor! :shock:

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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Cary wrote:
Hammer wrote:What kind of sick-o carries a casket in their airplane anyway?

Seriously though...you balance the casket on a sawhorse and mark the point of balance. (I assume you use a piece of removable masking tape, not a permanent marker.) When you put the casket in the airplane, calculate 100% of the casket weight at the station of the point of balance.

Always thought that was a neat trick.


You had a DPE with a very macabre sense of humor! :shock:

Cary

Sounds like he was trying to trip you up and see if you were savy enough to run a second W&B in the event he transformed into a bat mid-flight.... some of those dpe's can really suck the life out of you..:twisted:
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Re: Passenger in cargo area.

Hammer wrote:What kind of sick-o carries a casket in their airplane anyway?

Seriously though...you balance the casket on a sawhorse and mark the point of balance. (I assume you use a piece of removable masking tape, not a permanent marker.) When you put the casket in the airplane, calculate 100% of the casket weight at the station of the point of balance.

Always thought that was a neat trick.



Carried them all the time in bush Alaska.

I divided the weight by the length at each seat row station that it replaced.
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