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Awesomeness!!! Thanks for taking the time and effort to post the pics with some context!! I love this stuff!
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That thread sealant doesn't look too fun to work with. Not sure if it matters but the photo of your thread sealant doesn't exactly match the diagram, looks like one of the studs that was supposed to be looped around was missed.
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This is great stuff, thanks for taking the time to share it with us.

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Hoeschen wrote:That thread sealant doesn't look too fun to work with. Not sure if it matters but the photo of your thread sealant doesn't exactly match the diagram, looks like one of the studs that was supposed to be looped around was missed.


Nope, pain in the rear to get right... And you are correct, I pulled and corrected my mistake there... Not that it would have been a huge deal as that is just a bolt and there isn't any pressure there... Made it right anyway... That's what I get for concentrating on pictures...

Sean was out today and I put him to work, so no pictures on my end except for Sean starting on the paint...

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Good old Continental Gold?
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Full day of painting and prep. Finished the day with engine painted and the newly powder coated engine mount installed.

Learned this little to compress the pushrod tube springs.

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Paint is ALL about prep. Spent most of the day masking.

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Before the Continental "gold".
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After. She is gorgeous!
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Dropping off a few more parts. Hope to be flying next week.
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Thank you very much for sharing this. I'm in the middle of recip. overhauls in A&P school, very cool!
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Just curious......I paint and powdercoat all of my parts prior to assembly. Is there a reason you waited until after assembly to paint the case? I have made paint shields for all of the parts, and paint them in a small booth prior to assembly. I powder coat the pushrods tubes , valve covers, and all small parts, even tried it on the case of my last engine. Sold that engine so don't know how it held up, but the engine was beautiful when it went into the crate. I doubt that I will powder coat another case as I think it may be hard to detect a crack . But the engine was certainly pretty.
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fabricman wrote:Just curious......I paint and powdercoat all of my parts prior to assembly. Is there a reason you waited until after assembly to paint the case? I have made paint shields for all of the parts, and paint them in a small booth prior to assembly. I powder coat the pushrods tubes , valve covers, and all small parts, even tried it on the case of my last engine. Sold that engine so don't know how it held up, but the engine was beautiful when it went into the crate. I doubt that I will powder coat another case as I think it may be hard to detect a crack . But the engine was certainly pretty.


Couple of reasons...

1- Less to mask off... It takes a lot of time and planning to paint ahead of time..
2- When assembling, do not have to worry about screwing up your finish..
3- And probably most important... I'm charging an hourly rate, the less time I spend on painting the less I have to charge the customer... If we were building an Oshkosh special then yes, I would take more time on it... But, this is a bush buggy.. So, we are making it look nice but not going overboard and keeping the build within a reasonable budget...

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Thanks, Brian. Great series. I have been interested in the P Ponk. Appreciate the detail.
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Sean is absent today... So, here is what I accomplished..

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Make sure all the inner cylinder baffles are installed "before" you install your intake system, exhaust, etc...

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Intake system installed... Note the little heat shields in the clamps... Sean was missing 2 so I found some in my stash..

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Getting the airplane ready to drag back into the shop...

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Setting up to put back on the mount... Note that I have the rear baffles on, alternator brackets and alternator on and vacuum pump installed..

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Back on the mount... Still have a couple of days left before we fire her up...

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Perfect description. Bush buggy!
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Glad to see you didn't pimp out the engine with oddball colors. When I had the engine in my old C170 overhauled, I took it to Flying Colors Aviation in Oroville WA. Owner Jesse Clark's gimmick was that he'd paint it any "flying color" you wanted, I had a hard time convincing him I just wanted good old Continental Gold. The previous owner of my C150/150TD overhauled the engine, he painted it basically Lycoming Grey (which I liked) but some parts (carb starter valve covers etc) were painted either blue or red to match the exterior paint scheme (which I didn't care for). #-o
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Excellent thread. Really appreciate all the time it takes to post this stuff.

Are the thrust bearings babbit metal?
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hotrod180 wrote:Glad to see you didn't pimp out the engine with oddball colors. When I had the engine in my old C170 overhauled, I took it to Flying Colors Aviation in Oroville WA. Owner Jesse Clark's gimmick was that he'd paint it any "flying color" you wanted, I had a hard time convincing him I just wanted good old Continental Gold. The previous owner of my C150/150TD overhauled the engine, he painted it basically Lycoming Grey (which I liked) but some parts (carb starter valve covers etc) were painted either blue or red to match the exterior paint scheme (which I didn't care for). #-o


I really like straight forward colors. Powder coated engine mount (white) easier to see any cracks. Gold engine, black intake, black valve covers and white baffling.
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You missed an opportunity for a great photo by not cobbling up some sort of propeller to mount on the front of the barrel in this shot.
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Battson wrote:Excellent thread. Really appreciate all the time it takes to post this stuff.

Are the thrust bearings babbit metal?


Yes.. Same material as the other bearings..

Did a lot today.. But not a lot picture worthy,..

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Oil cooler mount... This plate mounts to the engine and the cooler to it...

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Make dang sure the nuts and studs do not extend past the plate.. If they do, they will interfere with the oil cooler sealing...

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Old Gascolator...

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My model SA3-10-A direct replacement STC Gascolator...

Also installed today... CHT probes, carburetor, oil temp probe, oil filter adapter, starter and started getting the exhaust ready to install...

Will finish up on Monday with a hopeful test flight on Tuesday..

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Brian-StevesAircraft wrote:Image


You missed an opportunity for a great photo by not cobbling up some sort of propeller to mount on the front of the barrel in this shot.


LOL... Shoot, your right.... Should of set my old air boat prop up on there... [emoji3]

Will have to think of that on the next one...

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Brian, that's what's called a "round" engine. :lol:

Seriously though, an outSTANDing string. There are all these small details which add up to the difference between a first class job and something less. Sort of like the cooking shows where they whip something up in seven minutes of screen time, and pull it out of the oven. But of course it takes REAL time, not just video time. This may help some folks understand the shop-hours that go into a first class job. Well done.

Thanks. cubscout
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cubscout wrote:Brian, that's what's called a "round" engine. :lol:

Seriously though, an outSTANDing string. There are all these small details which add up to the difference between a first class job and something less. Sort of like the cooking shows where they whip something up in seven minutes of screen time, and pull it out of the oven. But of course it takes REAL time, not just video time. This may help some folks understand the shop-hours that go into a first class job. Well done.

Thanks. cubscout


Thanks for he comments Cousin Scout.. [emoji3]

Getting real close to fire up time...

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Oil cooler... Larger size than standard 0-470...

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Prop governor....

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There is absolutely no room to work on the back of this engine... Tight to the firewall.. It is actually easier to remove the starter in order to change the oil filter...

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This is why you want to make sure you install the rocker shafts before you set the cylinders onto the case... Interference with the other cylinder... If you forget, you will have to remove the cylinder to get them installed...

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Torquing the prop on.. Have to use a wrench extension on the drive so here is the math that has to be done to get the correct torque setting...

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If it wasn't for a few things fighting me I would have her done by now... Should be able to get done tomorrow...

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