MarkGrubb wrote:Mr. Scout and Savannah Tom:

What can(s) are you referring to? Picture and/or source would be appreciated. Old NATO were metal and had a "flap" style lid that was held on by a bail.

The Scepter cans ARE current NATO.

It is almost certain that those cans and their pour spouts are also illegal and unavailable due to a lack of "CARB" compliance.

That's the one. The spout is sort of trapazoid shaped with the small side rounded. A bail holds the lid down. You need to buy a special pour spout to fit that odd shape.

I just looked on line at a couple of places and they don't have 'em anymore. I don't know what happened.

tom

I'm betting that someone had a bad experience with one of these cans and either threatened a lawsuit, or actually sued.

Remove from US market, problem solved. Soldiers in the US Army aren't going to sue a Canadian company.

The whole "CARB" and EPA thing smells.

I'm betting they just don't want to expose a problem they've had, and/or expose themselves to further liability.

MTV

You guys amaze me with you unsubstantiated "liability issues" theories. The DATA is there for all to see.

The feds adopted the California CARB requirements nationwide as of 1.09. Any can that is not in compliance with these regulation can no longer be sold in the USA.


This from a 4-wheeler store:
UPDATE: To comply with new regulations for 2009, we will not be getting more of these in stock [NATO Jerry cans]. The current supply has been exhausted. Thank you to everyone who ordered and as soon as we understand the strange new regulations and find a compliant can that doesn't suck- we'll get them in stock!

These guys used to sell the "old-school: metal NATO cans preferred by some folks here.

http://www.britishpacific.com/lrpartsSi ... yCans.html

Savannah Tom asks: Why did they quit selling old-school NATO cans?

I bet you can guess the answer........

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CARB COMPLIANT.

From the website listed above:

" Effective 12/31 we are halting sales of all NATO cans
nationwide, due to new federal regulations. We will continue to work on a compliant spout and we hope to be able to offer these cans again soon. Currently out of stock: All spouts, all seals, all water cans. All 20 and 10 Liter NATO: that's the end of those
Plenty of 5L (1.3 gallon) NATO left, but sales end on 12/31."

Why can they sell those pathetic Chinese cans that spill, leak and are fragile?

BECAUSE THEY ARE CARB COMPLIANT!

MTV and others please continue your unfounded liability-based wild-assed guesses, and theories despite all of the evidence to the contrary.


FYI: Here is a company in the U.A.E. that sells pretty much every can known to man. But of course, I could be wrong about this too.

http://jerrycans.org/index.htm

Maybe I could get them ship a palletload into Mexico and smuggle them across the border. This situation is completely whacked and our country has lost its collective mind.


Onward through the fog! Mark

Nice rant, Dude .

Hey, it's the internet--speculation is what it's about. Where's the reference to CARB regs being adopted nationwide, I would like to see that.

I'm not saying you are wrong--I'm saying I'd like to SEE that. It's called gathering information.

Still begs the question, that if this is the case, how can they sell those cheap red plastic pieces of .... at Wal Mart? Tell me how THOSE somehow comply with clean air regulations, but the Scepter cans don't.

Again, looking for information, not attacks. Information, as you have pointed out, is not "cause I say so" or "cause somebody in the company says so".

Just looking for some ACTUAL information here that makes sense.

Then again, maybe the red junk cans at Wal Mart are the last that'll ever come into this country as well..... That, too, would be good to know.

MTV