Jaerl wrote:My friend and I were hunting above Grand Junction a few years ago. We could pick up the local Station from Grand Junction. There was a story about a guy that the cops chased and cornered up on the Colorado Monument. The story said that when the suspect was cornered he decided to get out of his car and run off the edge of a 2,000 foot cliff. Always wondered why he didn't drive?

A dog, coyote, or wolf will take down prey in a pack that they wouldn't touch by themselves.

Maybe he was a tree hugger and didn't want to make a mess.

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Claude Dallas served 22 years in prison, his sentence being reduced by eight years for good behavior. He was released in February 2005. He has been sighted living in Paradise Junction, NV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Dallas


Effin unbelievable he could be out a free man

52Romeo wrote:Claude Dallas served 22 years in prison, his sentence being reduced by eight years for good behavior. He was released in February 2005. He has been sighted living in Paradise Junction, NV.

A good book on the incident, arrest, and trial is: Give a Boy a Gun by Jack Olsen

tom

Savannah-Tom wrote:....
A good book on the incident, arrest, and trial is: Give a Boy a Gun by Jack Olsen tom

Thanks, I've got it requested at the local library.

There are actually two books written about Claude Dallas, but for the life of me I can’t remember the other title. He gave almost no information to either author, mostly notes from everybody else.
Like many other stories they both should be given a lot of literary license. Mr. Dallas doesn’t live in Paradise Hills, but does visit periodically, according to my nearest neighbor. I get the feeling most of the local population wouldn’t care if he resided here as he was an outstanding worker and quietly, a nice guy.
What led up to the shooting, probably a combination of things from both perspectives. Dallas and Pouge had a history starting here in northern Nevada. The general feeling is if Dallas hadn’t put a mercy round behind the ear of the two officers he may have walked.
While I can not remember meeting Mr. Dallas, I am personally acquainted with many of the people in the books and there is no doubt he was probably harassed by some of the law enforcement personnel here, as was well documented in the news for throwing the homeless people in the Humboldt River to “clean them up”.
Did they deserve to die, probably not, but if you have something on the end of a chain and you keep jerking on it, you may get a reaction.
Dallas was convinced they were going to kill him, so he claimed in his defense, I would hazard that unlikely. Although him, and everything he owned might have ended up in the Owyhee River, I don’t think they would have risked a killing.
Justifiable, no way! And remember Dallas did go to prison, not a place for an extended vacation. I would leave you with this thought, when I went to work for the Lander County Sheriff’s Office, one of the supervisors told me if there was ever an enforcement officer that needed a bullet in the head it was Pouge.
So take it all with a grain of salt.

Uh, Y4...you can't even spell the man's name correctly, you obviously never met the man, yet you spread BS to the effect that Bill Pogue somehow deserved to die? And, you "justify" that statement by saying it was conveyed to you by a law enforcement officer. What BS! And, repeating crap like that certainly elevates YOUR status in the world....

Bill Pogue was a professional, and a hard working one at that. He most assuredly did NOT deserve to die at the hands of an idiot who featured himself a "mountain man".

MTV

mtv wrote:Uh, Y4...you can't even spell the man's name correctly, you obviously never met the man, yet you spread BS to the effect that Bill Pogue somehow deserved to die? And, you "justify" that statement by saying it was conveyed to you by a law enforcement officer. What BS! And, repeating crap like that certainly elevates YOUR status in the world....

Bill Pogue was a professional, and a hard working one at that. He most assuredly did NOT deserve to die at the hands of an idiot who featured himself a "mountain man".

MTV

Oh yeah...... here's another one that's going to get good But, being that I know a bit about Y4, I'm puttin my money on Y4.

http://www.fwoa.org/views.html
http://www.okgamewarden.com/PastIssues/ ... allas.html
here's some good reading on Claude Dallas

52Romeo wrote:http://www.fwoa.org/views.html
http://www.okgamewarden.com/PastIssues/ ... allas.html
here's some good reading on Claude Dallas

Thanks for posting this 52, I was too young in the early 80's to pay any attention to this story.

I just returned from Swan Valley, Id for Thanksgiving with the in-laws. I queried my Father-in-law (rancher) about Claude Dallas and the whole scenario. He spent 2 hours telling me all about his take and the whole story. He's in agreement with the authors of the links above. Very interesting story.

I put myself in the shoes of the family members of the CO's and the shoes of the Rogue Trapper. No comparison whatsoever.

SixTwoLeemer wrote:

52Romeo wrote:http://www.fwoa.org/views.html
http://www.okgamewarden.com/PastIssues/ ... allas.html
here's some good reading on Claude Dallas

Thanks for posting this 52, I was too young in the early 80's to pay any attention to this story.

I just returned from Swan Valley, Id for Thanksgiving with the in-laws. I queried my Father-in-law (rancher) about Claude Dallas and the whole scenario. He spent 2 hours telling me all about his take and the whole story. He's in agreement with the authors of the links above. Very interesting story.

I put myself in the shoes of the family members of the CO's and the shoes of the Rogue Trapper. No comparison whatsoever.

Swan Valley ??? And the gray ghost was in JAC at 1200 too... It is looking sharp.....

58Skylane wrote:

mtv wrote:Uh, Y4...you can't even spell the man's name correctly, you obviously never met the man, yet you spread BS to the effect that Bill Pogue somehow deserved to die? And, you "justify" that statement by saying it was conveyed to you by a law enforcement officer. What BS! And, repeating crap like that certainly elevates YOUR status in the world....

Bill Pogue was a professional, and a hard working one at that. He most assuredly did NOT deserve to die at the hands of an idiot who featured himself a "mountain man".

MTV

Oh yeah...... here's another one that's going to get good But, being that I know a bit about Y4, I'm puttin my money on Y4.

Carefull there. The guy is a murderer. I believe the jury.

Tim

Most prolific US serial killers have been described as nice guys too, at least by those who weren't being tortured by them.

Just because someone has charisma doesn't mean they aren't rotten to the core and a POS.

qmdv wrote:

58Skylane wrote:

mtv wrote:Uh, Y4...you can't even spell the man's name correctly, you obviously never met the man, yet you spread BS to the effect that Bill Pogue somehow deserved to die? And, you "justify" that statement by saying it was conveyed to you by a law enforcement officer. What BS! And, repeating crap like that certainly elevates YOUR status in the world....

Bill Pogue was a professional, and a hard working one at that. He most assuredly did NOT deserve to die at the hands of an idiot who featured himself a "mountain man".

MTV

Oh yeah...... here's another one that's going to get good But, being that I know a bit about Y4, I'm puttin my money on Y4.

Carefull there. The guy is a murderer. I believe the jury.

Tim

I agree Tim. I don't condone the killings of the game wardens and I believe Dallas should have served life or better yet, death. I just wouldn't call BS on Jerry's comments.

58Skylane wrote: I just wouldn't call BS on Jerry's comments.

Me neither.

thought this was about the guy hiding near caveman.... Is there any news on that one...

iceman wrote:thought this was about the guy hiding near caveman.... Is there any news on that one...

They think he is in the river.

well then he may wind up in Mexico or Yuma... Good for him.. Hope he enjoys the float trip....

Anyone heard anything more? Haven't heard a thing for the past week or more. Have they called of the search or are they still checking caves?

Since he apparently left behind canned goods in his back pack, that and the bloody T-shirt cloth, assume he crawled into a hole to die.
With the talk of him making it into the river, what would the water temperature have been this time of year?