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Southwest Alaska Flying

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Re: Southwest Alaska Flying

Couple random photos. First is from a walk I took on King Salmon Creek. It's been a schizophrenic winter up here, cold, then warm, rinse, repeat. We have good ice on the small ponds, but the way it has been it seems like we are really only a couple days away from questionable ice even on the small ponds. When I started my winter flying adventures, I only knew of two ways to check the ice. One is to drop rocks, and the other is to follow somebody else down...let them be the guinea pig. Last winter a pilot told me that the Naknek float plane lake, which is deeper than many of the small ponds, freezes later and so is usually a good indicator lake for all the small lakes. Once it is well frozen, the little lakes are generally good to go. And with that in mind, I've started to take ice walks on the creek next to the house. Creeks are a bit more prone to crummy ice, so it gives me an indicator when the weather tips into the melting too much regime. I'm trying to evaluate the options for the final moose chase of the winter, in my case the only moose chase of the winter, so I took the dog and walked the creek yesterday. It held.
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Today I went flying with a friend, looking for that elusive bull that still has headware. We eventually found one, might have a 38" rack, but that is all we need if we can get to him. While we were looking, we had some ooohhh, aaahhhh moments...
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Now we have to wait and see if the weather gives us a window to make a play at him, if so we have to see if he is still around, and finally whether we can find him at all. Winter hunts are fun, but I'm still a rank amateur...this time I'm taking my son, so it could be quite the party...
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Got a call the other day..."Wanna go to Platinum with me?"

Took me a while to respond..."Sure. When?"

The answer was whenever weather and schedules permitted...turned out to be today.

Here is the myth, the man, the legend...Rocket, with his noble 182 steed on the ramp at none other than Platinum, Alaska.
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When they rebuilt this runway, they had the incredible foresight to disable the cross runway that actually faced into the prevailing wind. But the ramp area works fairly well in a pinch. The wind was pretty stiff, and nicely diagonal to the ramp...
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So we may have used the ramp for departure...possibly in pretty much the alignment of the plane in the following photo...
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From the air, Platinum is a nice little strip on the beach berm between the Bering Sea and Goodnews Bay.
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There are some more buildings up by the mouth of the bay, but not a lot. Our pal Mark, who we went to visit, suggested that the total winter population is around 75. We didn't ask if that included the pet caribou or not. Just kidding. I'm not aware of any pet caribou.

The flight to Platinum was pretty quick, with a hefty tailwind, and apparently it was really quick because I never even had time to pull out the camera even though I was just the passenger. But on the way back, we had lots of time, as the smoking tailwind was now an obnoxious headwind. As we passed Togiak, I looked down, and there it was. I had heard stories a while back about this huge ship in the middle of the tundra. We have some good boats out in the tundra near Naknek I like to take people to see...but check this out. This is no boat...it's a bona fide ship, completely ashore. Way ashore. End of the line for that one.
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It's amazing what a south or west wind accompanied by a high tide can do in country where the tide range is more than 20 feet.

The weather was not bad at all today, but it was dynamic. On the way to Platinum, I couldn't have taken this photo, as we couldn't see out around the islands and had a better view inland. On the way home, the opposite was the case...great view south and the hills onshore had some crud around them.
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But we found a good place to duck across the hills at the north end of the Nushagak Peninsula.
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Then cruised home along the beach.
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Was intending to take my son to Anchorage for a swim meet last weekend, but the weather in the Cook Inlet basin was a problem, as were the passes...so I didn't. Usually in the summer I can get to town in a three day window. Winter is more chancy, and the best forecast weather ended up being completely wrong...so I waited for the forecast good weather and then we got completely shut down by low clouds everywhere in place of the partly cloudy skies forecast. I think this winter is proving a bit of an extra challenge because it has been just warm enough that the bay and the large deep lakes are not frozen, so we are still generating fog and I don't think the forecast models are handling that well at all.

So Cedric and I went flying local instead, and took turns taking photos on a brief tour of Naknek, South Naknek, and King Salmon. Fog was just west of Naknek when we took off, just at the end of the runway in King Salmon when we did some patterns there, and was just behind the runway when we got back to Naknek.

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And...the drive home...good thing we landed when we did.

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Hey, I've been to Platinum, in 1980. This shows how not to land at night(not me). I landed right behind this one, we used the surf to reference the direction of the strip. This guy didn't reference too well. We came back when it was light to get this poor plane out of the sand and get the nose gear down. I lived and flew out of Goodnews for the summer, it was a great summer. I haven't changed since this picture was taken.
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Ha Ha! Goodnews and Platinum haven't changed either since 1980.

When ever I was stuck flying out of Bethel, flying down to Goodnews was always a breath of fresh air.

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Platinum may seem like it hasn't changed but WOW....it has changed. The fish camp is good size and has a healthy population in the summer. The mine is up and running and has a decent size crew in the summer, plus the gravel pit is busy all summer. Plus there has been a lot of exploration in the area in the last couple years so theres another few people and a helicopter or two.
Goodnews hasn't changed at all.....
Troy, I may be spending the summer in your neck of the woods, if things work out and I do, I will have my 170 out there. Would be awesome to hook up and we can burn some av gas!
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Greg...look forward to seeing you out here!
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Somebody had asked me for photos of the Island Girl with 850's on, but I can't recall where the question was, so I'll post one here, as I finally remembered to snap one in the hangar this weekend.

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This gives you a good idea how our non-winter has been. Video of a friend moving his PA-22 on skis from its customary tie-down on the ice in order to make sure it didn't fall through since the weather has been...not winter-ish...

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Troy- 850's on the mains only? What do you have on the nose wheel?

Last question have you upgraded to toe brakes? Double puck? Or are you still using the Johnson bar w/ drum brakes?
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"Troy Hamon"]Got a call the other day..."Wanna go to Platinum with me?"


Troy, I will have to dig out my pre digital picture box and see if I can find my ol E model Bo parked out at the end of the Spit!!
I landed on the kinda straight part of it out on the end.
There were 3 Adco unit's there for a Knik Camp, they were set up in a U shape, was a good spot to keep the ol Bo tied down in the wind.
We were hauling gravel down to the end of the spit and loading it on a barge to go up the Kusko!!
LOOOONG TIME AGO!!

The New airport looks huge compared to the old one!!
Thinking of the old one, I remember a lad who flew in there in a 207, short fellow (about 5'1") not sure how he saw forward, landed in a just raging wind event that was quartering the runway (about 60-70 mph) I drove in from the end of the spit as he made about 4-5 passes at the runway and I went in to help him hold the plane down!! Anyway when he got it on the ground and we had him tied down he got out and was just shakin and had a little blood runnin off his head!! He said he had to land as he was to scared to fly back to Bethel as he had just kinda rode along on the ride for the last 15 minutes and was trying to find somewhere easy to crash where there were people?
He did not smoke but burnt 2 of my Camel straights in about 3 minutes!!Wind died down to about 30 in an hour or so and he saddled back up and headed home!!
Also landed back at the mine, The Generator and the Dredge were still operable at that time, Also the Big ERIE Electric Crane that had power lines running to it!!

Hay, Thanks for the memories!! Had some great fun and times there there!! =D>

I can't remember her name, but one of the elders made my then wife a Tea cup and plate out of woven grass, darn things were beautiful and held water!! They were eating on woven grass plates at that time, still have a couple of baskets she made, they are just stellar!! Oh did I say she was blind!!
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Re: Southwest Alaska Flying

DBI wrote:Troy- 850's on the mains only? What do you have on the nose wheel?

Last question have you upgraded to toe brakes? Double puck? Or are you still using the Johnson bar w/ drum brakes?


850's are on the mains only, still a 600 on the nose. Nobody has an STC for a larger nose fork, and while lots of folks have managed to get forks field approved, I haven't rounded a fork up yet so haven't tried for that. Yet. Rocket has an 800 on his nose when he puts wheels on...but that is not very often.

I don't have toe brakes, still have the Johnson bar. But I do have double puck discs.
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Re: Southwest Alaska Flying

Winter flying is my favorite. Takes more work, often involves a lot less daylight to play with, and the weather is more precious...many days are simply not flying days. But when the conditions line up, oh boy. When the ponds are frozen and the weather is nice, the wheels need some work.

January was tough. All the cold was shipped elsewhere, so we barely had flying weather and when we did it was too warm to trust the ice. But now we've been sitting in zero degree weather for a week, the ice has recommitted itself, and today was a day to play. In theory we were looking for caribou, but we didn't find much so we will probably have to look a little harder tomorrow.

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Great pictures Troy!

I think you should lead the BCP caravan to Alaska as you have 'been there and done that'.

Keep the photos coming!
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Yesterday we flew around and didn't find many caribou. Today we found more, not tons, but at least enough that it might be worth setting up a hunt plan...

In the meantime, I'm loving this cold weather with all the frozen lakes around southwest Alaska. I landed a bunch of places today that I've wanted to but just hadn't done yet. Lots of fun. The ice is hard, but then with the last 10 days at zero and colder, it should be. Have lost my main flying partner to the major crud, despite the brief remission yesterday. Rocket...get better soon...please...

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Troy -

Any thoughts or observations on how freezing weather effects the longevity of the fabric?

I often think about this when buzzing around in the Maule at 5* F.
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My impression is that the fabric has no problem with the freezing, but some of the topcoats are more brittle than others as the temperatures get cold. So not all paint is created equal. I don't know which ones are particularly good or bad though.

Fabric lasts practically forever up here if it is installed properly. Rocket is the man to ask though, he sees lots of airplanes and knows what is in their logs...
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MAU MAU wrote:Troy -

Any thoughts or observations on how freezing weather effects the longevity of the fabric?

I often think about this when buzzing around in the Maule at 5* F.


Cold really has little effect on fabric. The one minor exception is when you move a plane between a warm hangar and very cold temps...temporary sag, but doesn't hurt anything.

Fabric's major enemy is UV. So, minimizing exposure to sunlight is the best thing you can do for fabric.

But cold....no harm, no foul, and I've operated rag airplanes at -40 quite a bit.

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Well, we really did go chase some caribou. After finding them on Monday, Tuesday was beautiful and would have been the day to go. But I had a work commitment and wanted to make sure I got it done early. That way I would not be out camping stressing about getting back in time to turn in my assignment. So I spent the day at work getting things wrapped up, then took off Wednesday. On Wednesday, the weather was not so great. Wind was nothing remarkable, but the visibility was poor. Hmmm. We sat around a while, spent a little extra time going over our gear, and considered whether we should launch. I had two fools, I mean friends, that wanted to go on this trip with me. But the Island Girl is a nice two person winter camper. It is not a nice three person winter camp hauler. So I was going to need to run back and pick up a second load. Instead, my buddy Rocket agreed to load up with the second fool and bring him after I got out far enough to indicate that the weather was acceptable.

So I launched with my friend Carissa, whose name has not been changed, as we do not protect the innocent or guilty around these parts. She and I headed off runway 26 in Naknek, and the visibility was between 3 and 5 miles. Not my favorite. Not terrible either. It was around zero out, plenty cold, and we held a track for our caribou country while keeping track of the visibility in front of us. Mostly it was five miles or better, sometimes quite a bit better. But sometimes it was dropping down under five miles, and I would pick a lake on the horizon and start timing how long it took us to get there flying at 100 mph. The visibility never got below 4 miles while I was timing it, but I sure don't like flying in restricted visibility in the winter. I also was trying to be mindful that Rocket was following me, and I didn't want to stick him in conditions where he would not want to be out there. I was relieved as I got up near the destination to have the visibility improve dramatically, and blue sky above.

Carissa and I flew around and found the caribou, pretty much right where they had been two days prior. But in looking around, I wasn't sure I wanted to set up camp right there. The lakes they were around had no vegetation and no terrain, so our ability to actually put a hunt plan together seemed a little tenuous. On the other hand, a few miles south we had a couple lakes adjacent to some terrain that had a bit of vegetation cover. That cover would provide opportunity for a stalk, and the hills would give us a place to look for caribou. But it was a few miles from the majority of the animals. On the other hand, we found around 20 animals scattered around near the hills, so it seemed like maybe that would still provide a better opportunity than being totally exposed.

Decision made, we landed and waited for Rocket to arrive with Jay, our other fool, I mean friend.

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Rocket didn't hang around, as the weather on the 45 minute journey from King Salmon was just the sort of weather you don't want to find has changed for the worse while you were dallying. So he skedaddled home and we started working on putting up the tent.

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I've gotten attached to big tents for winter camping. We had a nice 8 person tent for the three of us. It was just about right. The bottom line is that when it is below zero, you will cook in your tent. No matter what the warning labels say. I've learned that a nice big, oversized tent helps make sure you have the ability to set up a secure, stable kitchen in the tent. So that's how I organize my winter camps. And the two-burner Coleman stove is not prone to tipping, so it makes a better, safer option than the backpacker stoves. We carry water, in this case in a pair of five gallon water containers. You can keep getting liquid water out of the jug for a long time even when it is cold, and it is a lot better than trying to make ice into water. And unless you carry an auger and make sure to camp on a deep lake, getting water out of the lake is not an option...

After we got the tent up, we went up to scout the last look at caribou before morning. They were still out north of us, but we had a beautiful sunset brewing.

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The cold starts in earnest when the sun goes down. As we settled in for the night I took some photos of the camp and tried to think of what I had forgotten. Jay had earned his place by bringing a huge pile of ice screws, which made for a great installation of the airplane tiedowns and the tent. I use regular old eyed lag bolts, which also work, but are a little more energy and time to install. The temperature as we buttoned up the tent was minus 4 F. Cold enough, but not bad.

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By morning, the OAT gauge in the plane claimed minus 6 F. Also not bad. And it wouldn't have seemed bad at all except when I had to get up to relieve my bladder in the middle of the night...took me a while to warm up after that. But I've been a lot colder.

The morning I got the heaters going to warm up the plane, and we left to chase caribou.

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When we climbed the hill, there were still caribou mostly north of us, but some of them were within a couple miles. We wanted to make sure we checked out the area around the hill where the caribou closer in had been the day before, so we started by heading away from the animals we could see in order to look around the back side.

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We covered a fair bit of country, and were just about to the end of the south side of the hill, when a lone caribou stood up out of the brush, close to where one had been laying down the previous day in our initial fly over. It was a little distance off, but I motioned Jay to catch up to me. The caribou circled away, but kept stopping to look, and eventually gave Jay a good shot and he hit it. I waited a bit and it didn't drop, so I dropped it for him. I was thinking that we had shot about 300 yards, as it had been a pretty small target. Well, it was a small target. We paced off our approach, and it was a touch over 200 yards, and it was the smallest caribou in Alaska history. It was larger than my dog. But probably not by much. Jay was pumped, as it was his first caribou, no matter how small. I started in cleaning it, and had my hands bloody so no photos. Jay has a couple of photos, but those are his to share, sorry. But trust me when I say...unbelievably small. Probably the size of a deer. Everything is relative, I guess.

I started in quartering and dressing the little bugger and realized I was applying a moose-sized solution to a deer-sized problem. Too late now...but I should have just headed, gutted, and pulled the forelimbs off rather than rendering it into its component parts. We headed back to camp and dropped the game bags off before climbing back up the hill to check on the location of our other caribou options. They had been headed north, and were a little further away. We thought about it, but decided we better start walking and we would decide when we got up there a ways whether it was in the cards or not.

We came to a frozen lake that was between us and the caribou, and the surface was torn up from the snow, rain, wind, refreeze cycle from last month.

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It wasn't long after that we realized we weren't going to be able to get to the caribou unless we were willing to return to camp by hiking in the dark. So we aborted the mission and headed back.

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The next day we got up early, made a quick run at getting out to where we could get to some caribou, but they had moved on. In fact, there were hardly any in sight, and those were over 4 miles away. So we headed back, broke camp, and got ready to head out. The wind had picked up and was 18-22 according to my handy anemometer. It was rushing in from the northeast, and though the PA-22 is a pretty good little wind plane, I moved it up close to shore to load and start. Rather than back taxi and deal with the ground handling risks, I taxied with Carissa down the eastern shoreline, right in the shadow of the lake berm. We turned and took off right up the shoreline crosswind, and headed for Naknek.

As we climbed out, I dialed in the weather at Koliganek, which was 16 gusting 24, visibility and ceiling good. I dialed in New Stuyahok, and the visibility was 3/4 mile...uh oh. I called a plane that was headed for Koliganek and asked about the visibility to the south...he said it was better than advertised at New Stuyahok...

Still, it would have to be a lot better to be anywhere near acceptable. We just veered a ways east to give it good clearance, and watched the visibility out the windshield go from 8 to 5 to 4, then 3 miles. But by then we were passing Levelock, and I had dialed in the South Naknek weather. Which was reporting 1 mile. I am just really not a fan of one mile visibility. I texted my wife, asking her to get a bit of information from me. About the time I started getting info back from her, I was also getting the King Salmon ATIS, which was reporting 5 miles, with wind 070 at 22 gusting 32. Definitely a lot more acceptable, so we turned and headed to King Salmon. Sure enough, as we approached we popped out into an area that was more like 8 mile visibility or better.

We landed runway 12 in King Salmon, with a lovely, smooth, straight landing, an incredibly short ground roll, and a very careful taxi to the ramp. While my wife came to get Carissa, I got fuel and was headed back out right away. I was very unimpressed with the weather. I was so unimpressed I didn't really think I would make it back a second time. But I figured if a storm was coming in, it would be better if both Jay and I were camped together so he at least knew what had happened. My takeoff roll was probably about 200 feet. Pretty short, and I wasn't even trying to make it short. I headed back into the murk, and it was worse. I was going past Levelock with 3 mile visibility, and it was probably about that for a full 1/3 of the flight back up. On landing at the lake, I came in directly into the wind. I should have planned to measure my ground roll. Boy was it short. I taxied right up next to the tent, and hopped out.

"I didn't expect to see you again. The wind has been picking up, I just figured no way you were coming back."

"Well, I thought about leaving you here, but I knew based on how it was when I came, that I should be able to get back. But I'm not sure you and I are going to make it back home. We can probably camp here or pack up and camp closer wherever we feel we need to stop. I figure we may as well pack up and see how far we get. That way if we do end up camped out, we won't have as much weather to negotiate when we get a window to fly home."

"Sounds good to me."

So we pulled everything out of the tent, all of which Jay had already packed up. Then I packed the tent while he retrieved all his ice screws. I looked the pile over, loaded it up, and then had Jay help me turn the airplane so we could again start up, taxi along the eastern shoreline, and we hopped in. Another crosswind departure and we said goodbye to the area and headed south. New Stuyahok had been reporting 3 mile visibility on my way north, but now it was back down to 3/4 of a mile. Koliganek was reporting 1 and 1/2 miles, with wind gusting in the 30's, so neither of those sound like places we were going to end up. The wind is manageable, but I really don't like flying in those kinds of visibility. So we headed on south, watching the visibility out the front. The timer indicated three miles, occasionally almost down to two miles. I kept wondering if the next lake was going to be the one we would land on. But we kept seeing the next lake on ahead, and kept flying. Pretty soon, we were past Levelock, and I figured I could either land at one of the cabins I know of in the area, or we could stop in at Katmai Lodge on the Alagnak River. I finally pulled up the scratchy weather for both King Salmon and South Naknek, and they were both reporting better than five mile visibility.

And just like that, we popped out into 50 mile visibility, the kind we like up here. The wind was howling, but it was right down runway 8 in Naknek at 20-ish knots, which is where we had started, so where the truck was parked waiting for us. This time I made a conscious effort to pay attention to our ground roll. But I didn't go back and measure it. It was short.

We parked, tied down, and called Carissa for the celebratory dinner arrangements. We all had huge burgers and called it an early evening.

And let me tell you how fortunate I feel to have made it home. We would just be launching right now to come home if we had stayed out there...as it blew 50 most of yesterday. The plane handles 30's just fine, but I am not anxious to find out exactly what the limit is...and yesterday was a no-fly kind of day.

Time to plan the next adventure.
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Re: Southwest Alaska Flying

Great write-up Troy!

It seems like scud-running is a required skill in Alaska.
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