Amazing outcome.

http://m.frontiersman.com/breaking_news ... l?mode=jqm

Glad no life-threatening injuries. I flew in that very 185 last summer.

Wow, that makes six very lucky people! Glad no one was seriously hurt. The other plane looks like a 172, not a 150 like the news article states.

Wow. Lucky bunch of people. Glad everyone is going to be ok!

Those boys have got to watch their $#!+.

Im starting to get an idea of how this progressed...



I think the occupants of the other airplane are pretty lucky the 185 didn't have just >.< THAT much more of an overtake on them! That prop chewed up everything right up to the seat pockets! Holy Cats is right!

Wow! I flew in and out of Talkeetna that very morning. There are virtually no flight obscurations there and the weather was perfect. It is a very open airstrip. Not a good day for blue and whites.

I went to a flight breakfast at Akron IA about thirty years ago and something similar happened. A 195 Cessna and a 182 got together a couple hundred feet from the end of the runway. They had both taken off from Mapleton and just happened to arrive at the same time. The 182 had the pilot, his father in the right seat and his daughter in the back. The 195 was behind and above and descended on the 182. The 195 went straight in after contact and the pilot was killed and the daughter in the 182 was killed when the prop struck her. Her father and grandfather survived. The wind shifted and it was an eery feeling taking off and looking down on the wreckage.

Talk about a miracle!

I heard secondhand from the TAT pilot that he was number 2 behind a beaver. Next thing he knows, 200 feet out and 50 feet up, he had a 172 attached to him. I assume that 123.6 is recorded and will be reviewed.

My guess is the student pilot didn't properly report or properly reported on the wrong freq. Time should tell.

Really glad no one was seriously injured. The TAT pilot is an acquaintance of mine and I really hope this doesn't prematurely end his aviation career. Bummer for everyone involved :/

Radios or no, ya still gotta look out the window. There are no radio airplanes out there, and they do use these strips.

That said, for us short guys, those 185s are a real hose nose, and hard to see out of, particularly anything in front and lower.

Glad they all came out of it alive....that must certainly qualify as a miracle indeed.

MTV

MTV,

I hear you. Wait I SEE what you mean. I was 5'7" before my last crash and am 5'5" now. I have always cushioned up until my helmet almost touched and forward as much as possible and still be able to flair. The older Cessnas with the round top panels were so much safer.

I considered spraying and pipeline work somewhat dangerous, but airports scared the crap out of me. I always approached at an angle until 100' out and then brought a high wing up for a last look back up the normal glide slope.

Contact

Wow! The perfect storm, with an amazing outcome. That's rare for sure.

Some VERY lucky people! Since I fly mostly out of non-towered fields, I've had a few close calls over the years, but nothing spectacularly close--more annoyances at other people's actions than anything--like straight-ins on a really busy day, B-52 patterns just because they're driving Bonanzas, short low patterns to show off their "superior" skills, showing off with chandelles on take-off rather than flying a normal pattern, landing before the previous airplane has cleared the runway, etc. But some of those were only moments away from something serious happening.

Eyes open, Folks!

Cary

Barnstormer wrote:Wow! The perfect storm, with an amazing outcome. That's rare for sure.

Actually, despite all odds, this is the second midair in the region this year and the other one also didn't include fatalities.

TradeCraft wrote:I heard secondhand from the TAT pilot that he was number 2 behind a beaver. Next thing he knows, 200 feet out and 50 feet up, he had a 172 attached to him. I assume that 123.6 is recorded and will be reviewed.

My guess is the student pilot didn't properly report or properly reported on the wrong freq. Time should tell.

Really glad no one was seriously injured. The TAT pilot is an acquaintance of mine and I really hope this doesn't prematurely end his aviation career. Bummer for everyone involved :/

Looks like you guessed wrong......http://www.adn.com/article/20150607/nts ... -frequency

NTSB Preliminary Report is out, and they've reviewed the FSS tapes.

MTV

Let me reiterate what MTV said before: See and Avoid, Look Out the Window, Don't just rely on radio which is Not Required, Don't get involved in other things around airports or any high density traffic area.

Guys, we old farts are not anti-radio or anti-technology. We just know, from years of experience, that seeing other aircraft, obstructions, terrain, towers, wires, and things that can hurt us is the safest way to deal with them. Not the only way, but by far the safest way.

For those pilots who think of radio misuse first, where midairs are involved, it is probably not your fault. You were probably trained that way. However, you are likely just as dead, if you hit something. Question your procedures. Some house keeping that makes great sense ten miles out can be questionable one mile out. Rote talking without visual confirming is questionable. Assuming that no radio traffic means no traffic can be deadly.