I’m looking hard at this unit. I’m curious about how it would work in these applications.

For wheels specifically the pitch on start up. Do you have to reset the pitch somehow after takeoff, or can it be setup to recognize the nose up attitude on the ground? (The airplane is flown IFR on occasion)

For floats, can it figure itself out on a wavy day as you start out?

Does anyone have experience with the AV-30 in a taildragger? Floatplane?

Thanks

Sorry no experience but I'm planning to put two of them in my 170, it's on float all Summer and wheel skis all Winter so I guess I'm going to learn fast. However given that it can be, with the push of a button reverted between an EADI and EHSI my first reaction is that it isn't an issue.

Call them. I messaged their username on here with some wiring questions about my Tailbeacon and after talking with the guy for awhile, I went ahead and pre-ordered two AV-30s. I can’t remember his name but the guy I spoke to was very knowledgeable and very helpful.

Nushi wrote:Call them. I messaged their username on here with some wiring questions about my Tailbeacon and after talking with the guy for awhile, I went ahead and pre-ordered two AV-30s. I can’t remember his name but the guy I spoke to was very knowledgeable and very helpful.

I think Shane's username is [email protected]

Any idea when AV-30 Certified will be out. My DG is pissing me off

My guess is it'll be setup something like the Garmin G5, you'll need to lift the tail until you're in the "level flight" position (similar to doing a weight and balance) then the software has a way to calculate the offset.

hamer wrote:My guess is it'll be setup something like the Garmin G5, you'll need to lift the tail until you're in the "level flight" position (similar to doing a weight and balance) then the software has a way to calculate the offset.

You can just measure the angle and enter it in with the G5. No need to lift the tail up. Really easy. Hopefully the AV-30 will be as simple.

I called them with this exact question a few days ago.

Super nice on the phone. They said yes, you center it up in level flight and then it will remember that position for following flights.

He said the certified versions aren’t approved quite yet, but they’ve been produced and are waiting for FAA approval. They figure they’ll ship in the first quarter of the year.

qmdv wrote:Any idea when AV-30 Certified will be out. My DG is pissing me off

I’m in the same boat. Shane told me 1st qtr of this year when I pre-ordered them.

I went through this mental exercise when I bought my Dynon D3.
I pulled the carpet back and carefully measured the angle of the floor.

All of it a waste of time. When I powered on the unit it showed the plane sitting nose up 9 degrees, the exact number I spent the time to measure.

If the unit bench tests at zero degrees then it will already be correct. The only exception would be if your panel is tilted (like a Champ for example)

Once you're flying in perfect conditions you can check it against straight and level to see if it needs a degree or two of Kentucky windage. It probably won't.

Kent wrote:….He said the certified versions aren’t approved quite yet, but they’ve been produced and are waiting for FAA approval. They figure they’ll ship in the first quarter of the year.

If it's like it was with uAvionix's Tailbeacon,
that must mean that they got their PMA (authority to manufacture)
but are still waiting on their STC (approving installations).

You have two factors - panel tilt (caused by the angle of the floating panel and the structure it is bolted on to compared to the longitudinal level line of the plane) and then the attitude of the airplane (caused by being a taildragger). Are you saying the AV-30 doesn't care about tilt (the G5 (and I think the Aspen, too) has you enter that in as a set-up parameter and it is used in the unit's algorithm).

Why couldn't you purchase the experimental units now and get going on the install and then pay for the STC later on? It is the same h/w off the same assembly line, right?

C180_guy wrote:You have two factors - panel tilt (caused by the angle of the floating panel and the structure it is bolted on to compared to the longitudinal level line of the plane) and then the attitude of the airplane (caused by being a taildragger). Are you saying the AV-30 doesn't care about tilt (the G5 (and I think the Aspen, too) has you enter that in as a set-up parameter and it is used in the unit's algorithm).

The overall majority or panels are 90* to the longitudinal level of the aircraft. There are a few that are tilted, and this must be accounted for with any digital gyro. You only have to level it to the aircraft. So if the panel is 90* to level, which most are, then you can definitely just set it as level on a bench. But in reality, it's like a 4 minute procedure to set in the aircraft so you really aren't saving much by setting it on a bench IMO.

A1Skinner wrote:The overall majority or panels are 90* to the longitudinal level of the aircraft. There are a few that are tilted, and this must be accounted for with any digital gyro. You only have to level it to the aircraft. So if the panel is 90* to level, which most are, then you can definitely just set it as level on a bench. But in reality, it's like a 4 minute procedure to set in the aircraft so you really aren't saving much by setting it on a bench IMO.

An early 180/182 is not 90 deg (level with the deck angle). It is tilted around 6 degrees or so relative to the level flight deck angle.

Thanks for the replies.

Uavionix states that they set them at level in the factory. So, in theory it will read correctly in the airplane, regardless of panel tilt or tailwheel configuration.

I’ll do a pirep when they are STC’d