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Was this mountain wave?

I use the word "mountain" very loosely.

Last night after the sun dropped below the horizon, I took a friend out in the Sport Cub for a quick spin for a break from studying for his PPL written. We took off from Twin Oaks headed south, and as soon as we were airborne it became clear that we had a strong but smooth wind blowing out of the north about 30 mph, giving us a ground speed of about 115kts. I thought at the time how laborious it would be to get back with that on the nose.

About 5 miles south of the airport sits the east-west running 1,200 foot high Nehalem Ridge: shallow grade on the windward side, falling off more steeply on the lee. As we approached the ridge headed south I thought we might find some mechanical lift at the crest as that north wind ramped up, so I turned to track it to the west and pulled the power back.

But, nothing. The air was extremely smooth. I had hoped to find some "glass-off," or the large blanket thermal that lifts off gently in the evening, but I think we were a little late for that with the sun below the horizon. I turned south again expecting some junky air in the lee of the ridge as we were about even with the top at this point. Suddenly, a gentle lift of about 400 fpm; I turn back into it knowing it couldn't be a thermal but I want to stay in it.

I pointed the nose north into the wind and pulled the power back a bit so as to not close the distance to the ridge and just kind of surfed it. I imagined it was a standing wave like the mountain wave that is so popular with glider pilots. I really wanted to be able to pull the power to idle but it just wasn't strong enough.

Living in northern Nevada for a few years I was aware of the guys at Minden but never really took the time to learn how to fly the wave. More so I was a very cautious of the conditions when it could occur since it seemed like Reno and the Washoe Valley more often had shitty rotors and dirty air spilled down the lee of the Sierra when the wind was strong out of the west. It is not something to take lightly. Just ask Steve Fossett.

So last night as I tried to stay in this little spot of lift my mind raced about what was happening. What this a micro wave? How exactly does it work? Was the air staying bound to the ridge as it spilled over the top, then going back up? Why?

Mike said "let's do slow flight as see if we can go backwards." Sounds reasonable. I pulled 2 notches of flap and was maintaining about 30mph indicated, 19.4 kts on the GPS. Who set the units to knots on this GPS?
Close enough.

I enjoy dabbling with this type of flying but have never taken soaring lessons. Curious if anyone else plays with similar conditions in their powered aircraft? I know Courierguy does.
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

Mountain waves and other forms of micro-weather are an area of intense curiosity for me, so I am interested to hear what the sailplane pilots around here have to say about your experience.

From my understanding, wave conditions are actually prevalent and occur as much as 2/3 of the time in areas where prevailing winds cross mountains or ridges perpendicularly. We see this a lot in the Front Range of Colorado, with a standing wave cloud often forming 30-50 miles out over the plains and a distinct Foehn gap all the way up to the mountains. I've been in my J-3 over the foothills (lee side of the mountains to our prevailing westerlies) and flown from a glassy-smooth area of 1500 fpm lift into another area of glassy smooth 1500 fpm sink within a few miles distance from the mountain ridge. Maybe I misread your description of the events, but it sounds like you were riding the primary ridge lift as opposed to the downstream waves that result from the overshooting of a stable layer of air after being lifted by the ridge. I think you would have had to move downstream a full wavelength to confirm the presence of an actual wave. Nonetheless, with the increasing stability of a evening atmosphere, the presence of a moving layer, and the other observations you described it would not surprise me if you were in wave conditions.

Here is a truly excellent resource for understanding micro weather and soaring weather. Sections on ridge and wave lift start on page 156, but the whole book is a must-read, in my opinion! http://www.flsc.org/portals/12/PDF/UnderstandingTheSky.pdf
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

I really enjoy playing with ridge lift in the Champ, it is a pretty cool feeling when you can pull the power back and keep it in the air...although I don't really enjoy the ass kicking that comes along with it sometimes. I would like to get a glider rating someday and learn more about it. It comes in handy when you are trying to get out of a hole from a high altitude strip on a hot windy day. Truckee is a good example, it is amazing how much lift you can get if you find the right spot (fly East first if you are headed West)...but there are places you definitely want to avoid.

Here is a couple generic illustrations that may help to visualize your example:
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

Felix wrote: Maybe I misread your description of the events, but it sounds like you were riding the primary ridge lift as opposed to the downstream waves that result from the overshooting of a stable layer of air after being lifted by the ridge. I think you would have had to move downstream a full wavelength to confirm the presence of an actual wave. Nonetheless, with the increasing stability of a evening atmosphere, the presence of a moving layer, and the other observations you described it would not surprise me if you were in wave conditions.


No, i think maybe you're right. I expected the ridge lift to be much closer to the ridgetop though rather than 1000 feet downwind. Plus, I caught it when I was downwind and below ridgetop level, which is what has me wondering whether it could be mountain wave since it's such a tiny ridge.

Here's a little diagram:
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

Graphic encounters...

Video: Oregon high desert "Leeward Mountain Waves", personally observed from the ground. But, also have flown similar clear air waves near Alvord Desert. Just like ocean waves, be careful (especially in the high desert).

Frontal passage, Southwest wind 50KTS, 4500MSL, Lake Albert venturi Southshore:

When the dew point spread is close enough, a "Roll Cloud" forms (00:09). The "Roll Clouds" are stationary as the wind moves. The crest of the "Mountain Wave" precipitates and visible moisture occurs, the trough is below the dew point and the clouds dissipate. In clear air a mountain wave is invisible and can be felt directly in the aircraft as it "Surfs" the crests and troughs.

"Moutain Waves" crashing in the ground:
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

Ah, I see. The added description and visualization helps. Wavelength and amplitude are correlated to the ridge height, wind speed, and stability. With a stable layer near the cooling ground and a swiftly moving stable layer being lifted by that ~1000-foot ridge a +/-400fpm wave downstream is very believable. As I think about it I remember flying from from Independence to Twin Oaks in my 180 last year and encountering some mild rotor/wave activity approaching and paralleling that ridge. As I said above, waves are often present - all it takes is the presence of mind to notice them! :D Life is good when you have the time and the right plane to slow down and play in them.
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

Yeah interesting topic. Pictures with arrows definitely work better for me!

Gliders are active around here and I often wonder how valuable those skills would be to have for back country flying.

My airport is right at the foot of some large mountains so when I was bored in the 7ECA I'd often pull power back so I'm loosing just a little altitude at best glide then blindly try find lift off the ridges to try and go up one side to around 9500ft and then pull the power over the peak and surf the ridges back down the other side to the airport. Gave me an appreciation for the glider pilots!

Wish I had the patience to learn more about it or just a lot more pictures with arrows!
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

Here is an excerpt from the link I posted above (starting on page 164). This outlines the conditions needed for wave formation. The bit at the end about model airplane pilots soaring waves generated by buildings and small terrain drop-offs helps make the case that no hill or ridge is too small to generate waves. Elsewhere the author states that ridges of about 500 feet above the surrounding terrain are needed to support the soaring of human carrying aircraft.


WAVE LIFT
The air is a light fluid and like all fluids it can experience waves. In fact, if you wish to see an object lesson on atmospheric waves, go to your nearest friendly stream and watch what happens downstream of a submerged rock or log. You'll see lift in front of the submerged object which corresponds to ridge lift, while behind it you'll see a series of ripples or waves. These waves can be quite large in a fast moving, deep stream.

Waves in the atmosphere are produced by a similar disturbance. Simply replace the rock or log with a mountain or ridge and you have the required setup. However, only certain atmospheric conditions produce waves. If we look at figure 147 we see the effect of wind blowing over a ridge in unstable, neutral and stable conditions. Note that only the stable situation tends to create an undulating pattern. This is because a lifted stable layer tends to return to its original level once it passes the mountain. However its downward momentum causes it to overshoot its preferred level so its stability brings it back up. Again it overshoots and continues this process downwind to oscillate up and down as if it were on a big soft spring. Thus we have our first requirement: a stable layer.

The next thing we need is ample wind. We find that generally waves require an average wind speed of at least 15 knots (26 km/h) at the mountain top. In addition, the wind must be fairly perpendicular to the ridge, not change direction with altitude and should show a general increase from the surface to the tropopause. These requirements are summarized in figure 148. Note that the lapse rate indicates a layer of stable air lying above the mountain. This is the ideal case, for an unstable layer below and above the stable layer create what can be described as a springboard for the stable layer to bounce on once the mountain begins the oscillation.

The shape of the wave-producing mountain is a factor in wave strength. The ideal mountain is shown in the figure. Basically the upwind side is concave, the back is steep and the mountain size is about that of the first wave.

A long ridge or mountain is the best wave producer. Short ridges and hills allow the air to flow around their sides and interfere with wave formation. The length of a ridge for optimum formation should be a minimum of one wavelength. Wave can be produced behind isolated hills as shown in figure 149. However, the wave will be small and die out quickly downwind. A perfect wave generator can produce a series of waves that extend for hundreds of miles downwind.

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Model sailplane pilots have been known to soar their small craft in waves produced by buildings, fences, small bumps and drop offs in the terrain. The process on such a small scale appears to take place in lighter winds than required for larger waves.
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

Great stuff, Felix and CFOT. Very interesting.

Been a fan of using thermals for a long time, but they are much easier to understand. The wave stuff isn't.
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

My regular CFII is particularly adept at using mountain waves to lift his fully loaded 206 upward. I'm not nearly as skillful, although I've certainly learned to stay away from the mountain wave descents on the lee side! However, several times I've come out of the San Luis Valley over La Veta Pass with a pretty fair tailwind out of the west and found the airplane climbing at 1000-1500 fpm in level flight--and that's pretty cool, for sure. All good things come to an end, though, and a similar descent occurs after passing over the ridge line.

The easiest way for me to understand what the motion of the air will be is to watch a stream for awhile, because the air is like the water, and the mountains are like the rocks and other impediments in the stream. The most noticeable thing that I learned from doing that is how far downstream that wave effect occurs. In the air, I've learned that a strong west wind over the Rockies can have up and down effects as far east as 100 miles "downstream" from the mountains. But a strong wind can have significant effects over much smaller hills, too.

This variable medium that we fly in is pretty fascinating, right?

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Re: Was this mountain wave?

Strong mountain waves can be really impressive.

Waves coming off of the Rockies extend well into the 30s, and occasionally the 40,000' range. They also often extend for hundreds of miles downrange.

During the winter when the winds aloft are stronger, it's not uncommon to be at idle power and still accelerating. On occasion we have to start a climb to stay below redline. Then, about seven miles (about one minute) later, the opposite happens and we're at max continuous power and decelerating. Occasionally needing to descend to stay out of the buffet. This can go on for 20+ minutes depending on the day.

The strange thing about waves that I've never been able to wrap my head around is this: We'll be in moderate wave at 35,000' while the guy directly below us at 33,000 is not. To this day that doesn't make intuitive sense, but it happens.
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

My experience with waves have been different than Cannon's in that my slow speed made mitigation impossible either with 65hp in a Taylorcraft or 1300shp in a Huey. At slow speed I found ups not to be followed by downs and downs not to be followed by ups as is common with thermals and hydraulic ridge lift. I also found no downs taking me all the way to the surface, just close. While thermal and ridge lift was generally a 300fpm to 3,000fpm deal, up and down, wave was always a 8,000 to 10,000 fpm deal and only up or down.

Wave events were too exciting to guage accurately but seemed to last about a minute. The altitude change was impressive and accurate.
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Thermal and hydraulic ridge lift, however, is easy to manage. By spending more time in ups than downs, we have net gain in both ground speed and altitude. Win-win. Attempting to maintain altitude is grossly energy inefficient.
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

One of the most interesting things I've done in transitioning from a hang glider pilot to a powered pilot, (40 years ago now, wow...) is being able to explore the down wind side of ridges and ranges, for better or for worse. Having said that, there is nothing I can add to what others have said here, except "shit happens." My hang gliding experiences STILL help me every time I fly nowadays, and I believe make me a safer pilot.

Great writeup Zane, you put us right there in the cockpit! So far this year I've had 3 flights where I was able to shut down and almost hang it there, but not quite, but the sinking out of the ridge lift before I needed to restart took 10 or 15 minutes. The thing about the ridge behind my home is when it's really honking, like a few days ago when I could have launched at noon and stayed up until sunset.......it's too damn strong for making landing my uphill 400' runway much fun, being as the great soaring conditions are a tailwind on landing. And frankly, after the first half hour or so of scouring the ridge line, it gets a little boring, the one time I stayed up for 3 hours deadstick (or whatever it was) I had to force myself to do it, simply so I could say I did it, but it got boring. I find powered flying a lot more fun in general. The sweet spot is a little of both, I spend a lot of time at reduced throttle settings =D>
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Re: Was this mountain wave?

Some of my longer hang glider flights were due to wave activity. I've been higher in waves than appropriate for a public forum, and so have many HG pilots (or sailplane pilots) on occasion in the rockies. The feeling is mixed, however, due to the speed range of a hang glider (25-65 mph). You can't cry uncle lest you go back into the rotor or you might end up getting the ride of the year, and you sometimes can't penetrate out in front of it. So you are occasionally along for the ride. Sometimes they would top out at 14-15k near a popular launch here. Sometimes, much, much higher (FLxxx).

As a teenager, I could take the plane out in the winter on some days and shut the engine down and still be climbing in glass smooth air at close to the yellow line for as long as I could put up with the lack of a heater in the waves that set up over the area, back and forth, well over the service ceiling.
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