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WTB/ISO:170B

I am looking for a 170B here in the lower 48. I am open to some damage history depending on the extent and how it was repaired. If you are aware of any listings local to you, off-market or soon to come please keep me in mind. Thanks!
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Where are you located? Might make a difference during this time of year when weather can have a big impact on buying and delivering a plane.

I knew of a 170B for sale recently and can check to see if it has sold. It was originally priced at $90K but the last I saw, listed at $85K.
Are you set on a 170B? As much as the die hard TW owners/pilots look down on a nose wheel, have yo thought of a nose dragger. Benefits are much reduced insurance, less chance of a ground loop when the winds are bad. The insurance on my TW is almost exactly 3x's the insurance on the trike valued at the same hull price. Factor in age, and when a pilot gets older, it gets harder to insure the TW.

Things don't sell nearly as well in the winter so it may be possible to get a better 'deal'. In my opinion, deals are rarely deals. Generally those deals are planes that have sat and need attention, engines near
TBO, or other issues that price them at a discount. Like yo, I was always looking for the deal and usually end up with a project that sits more than it flies when I first buy it. Aging has made me realize, I am about done with projects, life is too short.
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WWhunter wrote:Where are you located? Might make a difference during this time of year when weather can have a big impact on buying and delivering a plane.

I knew of a 170B for sale recently and can check to see if it has sold. It was originally priced at $90K but the last I saw, listed at $85K.
Are you set on a 170B? As much as the die hard TW owners/pilots look down on a nose wheel, have yo thought of a nose dragger. Benefits are much reduced insurance, less chance of a ground loop when the winds are bad. The insurance on my TW is almost exactly 3x's the insurance on the trike valued at the same hull price. Factor in age, and when a pilot gets older, it gets harder to insure the TW.

Things don't sell nearly as well in the winter so it may be possible to get a better 'deal'. In my opinion, deals are rarely deals. Generally those deals are planes that have sat and need attention, engines near
TBO, or other issues that price them at a discount. Like yo, I was always looking for the deal and usually end up with a project that sits more than it flies when I first buy it. Aging has made me realize, I am about done with projects, life is too short.


In the 170's I'd prefer a B model, avionics aren't something I am too concerned about, I just want it to be a good reliable plane. I am have seen a few nicely updated B's with new avionics, all of the performance upgrades etc. but they are usually very near a MOH or have missing logs, both of which are slightly concerning.

For what I plan to do with the aircraft and the places I'll fly the majority of the time a trike setup would work but it's not really what I am after. I have had many projects over the years and while I love the challenge and the hunt for necessary parts/upgrades/mods etc., I find that once complete my interest wanes and I find myself moving on in short order. I am not opposed to a project 170B depending on the depth of it's needs but I haven't even found any that I would label as a project at this point.
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Re: WTB/ISO:170B

A friend is selling his XPmods 210hp 170B. Not sure the price.
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It's been on/off/on the market, but I think Wolf will be putting his bird back up for sale... dunno what he will be asking when he re-lists it https://whiskyblue.wolfsview.com/wb-home/
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Bigrenna wrote:It's been on/off/on the market, but I think Wolf will be putting his bird back up for sale... dunno what he will be asking when he re-lists it https://whiskyblue.wolfsview.com/wb-home/


Yea, I reached out to him via his email listed on his website, crickets so far but it does appear that he might be currently traveling in it and it's the holidays so people are busy. I am in no rush.
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My Super 170B is for sale: Here is the webpage I made to describe it:
www.BetterThanNewC170.com

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john54724 wrote:My Super 170B is for sale: Here is the webpage I made to describe it:
http://www.BetterThanNewC170.com

Cheers,
John Nielsen


Thanks for the link, that's a nice plane indeed. Unfortunately that's a little spicier price than what my budget will allow. GLWS!!!
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Re: WTB/ISO:170B

For many years, I lusted after a C180 while owning a couple other lesser airplanes.
"They cost too much", etc etc.
Just when I'd finally talk myself into spending $XX on one,
I'd discover that the going price was now $XXX.
About ten years ago, I finally bit the bullet and bought one.
My only regret now is that I didn't do it years before.
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Re: WTB/ISO:170B

There is a nice "sounding" 52 170B, it's had some upgrades applied to it posted on Bstormer this morning @ $91K
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Mapleflt wrote:There is a nice "sounding" 52 170B, it's had some upgrades applied to it posted on Bstormer this morning @ $91K



It has been on Barnstormers for some time now. I spoke with the owner a few weeks back. It's ready for a MOH so there's some coin on top and it has replacement wings. There was some damage repaired twice that they couldn't find record of because a large part of the log books are missing and it's already at the top of the market in terms of pricing. I like the avionics and some of the mods/adds, but the lack of any history knowledge combined with the repairs and the almost timed out motor make me pass.
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Re: WTB/ISO:170B

A 1953 170B posted up yesterday on Bstormers.
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Re: WTB/ISO:170B

If the nice 170's out there are too rich for your blood,
maybe consider something like a Pacer or Stinson.
Those are (or used to be) generally a little more affordable,
but with similar performance.
Or set your sights a little lower & start looking at 2 place airplanes.
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hotrod180 wrote:If the nice 170's out there are too rich for your blood,
maybe consider something like a Pacer or Stinson.
Those are (or used to be) generally a little more affordable,
but with similar performance.
Or set your sights a little lower & start looking at 2 place airplanes.


I have a soft spot for Stinson's but I have no real interest in owning one. I don't have an issue with a clean 170B under $100K so long as it's not due for a MOH. Why would I spend $140K+ for a 170B when that puts me in 180 territory?!
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CoaSTOL Cowboy wrote:
hotrod180 wrote:If the nice 170's out there are too rich for your blood,
maybe consider something like a Pacer or Stinson.
Those are (or used to be) generally a little more affordable,
but with similar performance.
Or set your sights a little lower & start looking at 2 place airplanes.


I have a soft spot for Stinson's but I have no real interest in owning one. I don't have an issue with a clean 170B under $100K so long as it's not due for a MOH. Why would I spend $140K+ for a 170B when that puts me in 180 territory?!


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asa wrote:https://www.barnstormers.com/classified-1943946-1953-Cessna-170B-4584C.html



I have been eyeing that one for a few weeks now but I have yet to speak with the owner.
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CoaSTOL Cowboy wrote:
asa wrote:https://www.barnstormers.com/classified-1943946-1953-Cessna-170B-4584C.html



I have been eyeing that one for a few weeks now but I have yet to speak with the owner.


Why not?
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