G44 wrote:What was Cory's fuel flows at those speeds?

About ~13ish gph

I don't cruise that fast, it's lame to drive a Cub that hard. I usually do about 95mph at 5.5-6gph in my lil GhostCub.

Ghost wrote:

G44 wrote:What was Cory's fuel flows at those speeds?

About ~13ish gph

I don't cruise that fast, it's lame to drive a Cub that hard. I usually do about 95mph at 5.5-6gph in my lil GhostCub.

Is that a fixed pitch or CS prop?

asa wrote:

Ghost wrote:

G44 wrote:What was Cory's fuel flows at those speeds?

About ~13ish gph

I don't cruise that fast, it's lame to drive a Cub that hard. I usually do about 95mph at 5.5-6gph in my lil GhostCub.

Is that a fixed pitch or CS prop?

Fixed, stock Catto prop.

Videos don't lie. What a trip we had! Cory shows his speed a couple times in this video.

I stand corrected on the GPH

AKT

Any idea what it will cruise at with 35's at 6 gph? Will it even stay in the air at 6 gph with 35's?

G44 wrote:Any idea what it will cruise at with 35's at 6 gph? Will it even stay in the air at 6 gph with 35's?

As I previously stated:

Ghost wrote:I usually do about 95mph at 5.5-6gph in my lil GhostCub.

Sorry, I missed that.

Ghost wrote:35's + my CC(EX) = Legit...

https://www.facebook.com/theflyingcowboys/videos/1924242254516304

What a great way to meet a crop duster.....and they're worried about drones.

MTV

mtv wrote:

Ghost wrote:35's + my CC(EX) = Legit...

https://www.facebook.com/theflyingcowboys/videos/1924242254516304

What a great way to meet a crop duster.....and they're worried about drones.

MTV

More great advice from you Mike

If you can't see the crop duster flying ahead of you, you shouldn't be flying at all.

aktahoe1 wrote:

mtv wrote:

Ghost wrote:35's + my CC(EX) = Legit...

https://www.facebook.com/theflyingcowboys/videos/1924242254516304

What a great way to meet a crop duster.....and they're worried about drones.

MTV

More great advice from you Mike

If you can't see the crop duster flying ahead of you, you shouldn't be flying at all.

I've flown a career of low and slow as a scout pilot.

It's our job to see things. We do it pretty good.

You'd be surprised what all will pop up and surprise you.

aktahoe1 wrote:

mtv wrote:

Ghost wrote:35's + my CC(EX) = Legit...

https://www.facebook.com/theflyingcowboys/videos/1924242254516304

What a great way to meet a crop duster.....and they're worried about drones.

MTV

More great advice from you Mike

If you can't see the crop duster flying ahead of you, you shouldn't be flying at all.

Shelterbelts can hide a lot, Kevin, as do fence lines, etc. And, as I noted, lots of drones operating in farm country now. And, the nemesis of sprayers: Met Towers.

But, heck, I can get that view of the country from the windshield of my truck. Airplanes offer a lot better view.....

MTV

aktahoe1 wrote:More great advice from you Mike
If you can't see the crop duster flying ahead of you, you shouldn't be flying at all.

I wouldn't be so quick to sling condescending jabs... I probably know as many crop dusters as anyone, and I can not think of a single one who hasn't pulled up to turn only to be greeted by unexpected traffic at some point in their career... if you are going opposite directions, you are going to have a closure rate pushing 300 miles an hour, in other words, if you are looking ahead where you always do, you are behind the ball by a factor of two. The crop duster who is likely far more proficient at the task at hand is not going to be looking up for obstacles, and more than likely is going to be flying something too cumbersome to do much evasive maneuvering anyway.

As someone who makes a living flying low and fast , I tend to fly my GA airplanes no higher than I want to fall out of them, except when I'm flying over farm country that is in it's prime time to be sprayed....

This topic is the very reason that in absolutely every ag aviation safety type seminar I have ever been in, one of the mantras preached was 'Ferry at 5 (500'AGL) and stay alive... because when we are working, we are ferrying back and fourth over country that's in it's prime time to be sprayed.

Take care, Rob

As to the original post,

This was really a foreseeable event.... You built one bad ass airplane no doubt! but it is one that is better suited to hauling a quartered out moose off a rock pile gravel bar, or a sheep and weeks worth of camp off a shaley ridge top, than the 'freestyle aerial motocross' type flying you seem to enjoy most. Build your CC with as much attention to detail as you expended on this one, and it will likely be a real ripper, better suited to your mission, and still be no slouch in the off chance you find yourself needing to pack meat

Take care, Rob

Do you people really think we're just bumbling along like a bunch of idiots with no regard for safety?

I've never been one to sling experience but 7000 hours in I think I've gained some. Not to mention the 50,000 hours of experience flying around us as we traveled east.

Not slinging anything here. Just really tired of the same folks always "slinging" the opinion. That's all that it is. Same reason that many don't post here any longer.

For what is worth, we always have a pilot or two flying high above looking out ahead as well but you not being there or listening to our comms you would have no idea. If your planning to fly low because you saw it on the internet well, I don't have much for ya.

Akt

I vote for Rev2. Seems way more durable. I'd have to get my wife a good paying job though so I'd have time to fly it and $$$ for gas.

For comfortable stability, fast and fuel efficiency it's hard to beat a good old Piper Comanche 250.

My apologies if I'm coming across brash, sensitive or arrogant. I have a lot of respect for you guys like Mike, Rob etc.

I just need to learn to keep my mouth shut.

AKT

To the original post. The guy who pays the bills can fly whatever he likes. Kevin can change airplanes as often as he likes. I'm happy to sit here and read about stuff I can only dream about.

Cheers...Rob

I don't much care what other people think. Most of the opinions bloviated here are based on assumption and either inaccurate or incomplete data. See those salt grains? Suck 'em!

Well. The flight you see was briefed as well as flown with a forward looking scout aircraft calling out lines and potential conflicting traffic. Hell, you can even hear a few of the calls in the video.

I'll make an observation on the keyboard quarterback crowd... Piss sucks to drink, stop that shit.

Ghost wrote:I don't much care what other people think. Most of the opinions bloviated here are based on assumption and either inaccurate or incomplete data. See those salt grains? Suck 'em!

Well. The flight you see was briefed as well as flown with a forward looking scout aircraft calling out lines and potential conflicting traffic. Hell, you can even hear a few of the calls in the video.

I'll make an observation on the keyboard quarterback crowd... Piss sucks to drink, stop that shit.

Well, that really raised the intellectual level of the discussion..

MTV

At the risk of assuming Zane's job, how about roughly sticking to the point of the OPs thread. Contribute something to the discussion of pros and cons of carbon cubs, C180, Rev2 or whatever.

If you don't like a video or action in one, then start your own safety thread. There's a reason this website isn't called fly2pavedairports.com Many if not most aviators/airplane owners would not consider off airport operations to be a safe or sensible pass time. This community is supposed to be a place for like minded individuals to discuss things like landing off airport, which would draw ridicule in other aviation environments. Posting off topic comments dilutes quality content, and the derisive overtones make people not want to post. I enjoy this forum with the idea that those involved in the activities promoted within accept a higher level of risk associated with said activities. If you don't like the risk don't do it yourself, and if you're not smart enough to understand that risk someone's random warning probably won't get through anyway. My 2cents, take it or leave it.

Kevin, you've hung around people with the STOL lightweights like the kitfox, superstol, and even had a nice highlander yourself, what do you see as the advantage of a carbon cub over those? Is the CC the perfect middle ground of fun and robust construction between the 750lb class lightweights and the heavy duty design of the Rev2? Are the others too small for a 6ft plus guy? I noticed Steve was running Beringer gear on the highlander, any comments on its performance?