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Atlee dodge vs. Lakevue jump seats

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Re: Atlee dodge vs. Lakevue jump seats

I use one of these on my Atlee Jump seats, works pretty well.

https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/p ... ckkey=6766

If I did it again I think I would only install one.
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daedaluscan wrote:I use one of these on my Atlee Jump seats, works pretty well.

https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/p ... ckkey=6766

If I did it again I think I would only install one.

Thanks I had seen those as well but was unsure which version A or B and what thickness would be best. Which did you buy?

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Addicted2climbing wrote:Thanks for the info on Carseat compatibility. In regards to the covers I emailed the same aircraft seat guy and he sent me some pics. They look very nice, but I imagine the added thickness affects the folding. Can you verify this? Maybe on a widebody 182 I have a bit more room to fold as when I spoke to the lakeview guy he said with a widebody there is a spacer to get the seats closer to center giving more elbow room on the sides. I also considered tie on seat covers like on a dinner chair and if it affected the folding, I just remove them when not needed.

Any pics of an installed carseat on your Lakevues you can send?

Thanks again,

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Daniel made my seats just skinny enough to be able to fold up. They’re perfect. I think the padding is thicker than standard on mine as well. They fold up nice. You’ll have more room than what I have in my early 180. I’ll look for pictures. I love Atlee Dodge, but having sat in both jump seats, I can say the Lakevues are definitely more comfortable.
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Addicted2climbing wrote:
daedaluscan wrote:I use one of these on my Atlee Jump seats, works pretty well.

https://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/p ... ckkey=6766

If I did it again I think I would only install one.

Thanks I had seen those as well but was unsure which version A or B and what thickness would be best. Which did you buy?

Marc

I bought it used so I am not sure, but I measured it and the seat cushion is square which makes it a B I think from the dimensions I find on Spruce. It fits nicely.
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Re: Atlee dodge vs. Lakevue jump seats

If you're gonna run removeable cushions,
if you ever have over-water flights you might consider getting some that double as a PFD
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hotrod180 wrote:If you're gonna run removeable cushions,
if you ever have over-water flights you might consider getting some that double as a PFD

Wow thats a great idea...
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In another post which I cant find there was a pic of a baby in a carseat in a Lakeview and an atlee dodge seat. The person complained that the leading edge of the lakeview seat was forward of the door post making the seat far forward of the original bench and the AD seat was more aft was a bit adjustable and gave more room for a carseat. However after speaking with the guy who sells lakeview yesterday i asked if it put the seat in the same location do that the leading edge of the seat was in the same spot and he said yes. Perhaps this guy who has his farther forward installed them incorrectly, or are the lakeviews really farter forward? maybe he had a narrow body C182 and its not the case on a wide body 182p? If any of you have a lakeview seat can you confirm either way?
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Re: Atlee dodge vs. Lakevue jump seats

I sent my cushions to Oregon Aero and had them install their high density foam. Makes the seats a bit more comfortable. I have Atlee Dodge jumpseats and I'm very pleased with them.

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hotrod180 wrote:If you're gonna run removeable cushions,
if you ever have over-water flights you might consider getting some that double as a PFD

Wow thats a great idea...


Actually, if you're going to be flying over water, you need to be WEARING a PFD, not sitting on one. Talk to anyone who's landed in the water in an accident, and they'll tell you that just getting out of the plane is task enough....trying to also retrieve a seat cushion.....probably not going to happen.

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Addicted2climbing wrote:
hotrod180 wrote:If you're gonna run removeable cushions,
if you ever have over-water flights you might consider getting some that double as a PFD

Wow thats a great idea...


Actually, if you're going to be flying over water, you need to be WEARING a PFD, not sitting on one. Talk to anyone who's landed in the water in an accident, and they'll tell you that just getting out of the plane is task enough....trying to also retrieve a seat cushion.....probably not going to happen.

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I'll add, please do not purchase ones the "auto-inflate" by sensing moisture or you will find yourself facing significant challenges extricating yourself from the sinking ship.
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Re: Atlee dodge vs. Lakevue jump seats

Addicted2climbing wrote:In another post which I cant find there was a pic of a baby in a carseat in a Lakeview and an atlee dodge seat. The person complained that the leading edge of the lakeview seat was forward of the door post making the seat far forward of the original bench and the AD seat was more aft was a bit adjustable and gave more room for a carseat. However after speaking with the guy who sells lakeview yesterday i asked if it put the seat in the same location do that the leading edge of the seat was in the same spot and he said yes. Perhaps this guy who has his farther forward installed them incorrectly, or are the lakeviews really farter forward? maybe he had a narrow body C182 and its not the case on a wide body 182p? If any of you have a lakeview seat can you confirm either way?


Sounds like some posts I made to this thread:
https://backcountrypilot.org/forum/cessna-rear-seats-20301

Although I was talking about Cessna jumpseats vs FA Dodge seats, not Lakevue.
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I installed Lakevue seats but haven’t added cushions yet. Interested in pictures if anyone has some they’ll share. TIA
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Daniel made the seats. Top notch for sure. Mine are also aft of the door post, which someone asked about earlier.
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Re: Atlee dodge vs. Lakevue jump seats

robw56 wrote:
Addicted2climbing wrote:In another post which I cant find there was a pic of a baby in a carseat in a Lakeview and an atlee dodge seat. The person complained that the leading edge of the lakeview seat was forward of the door post....

Sounds like some posts I made to this thread:
https://backcountrypilot.org/forum/cessna-rear-seats-20301
Although I was talking about Cessna jumpseats vs FA Dodge seats, not Lakevue.


I have BAS (now Lakevue) jumpers, don't know if they mount forward or aft of the Dodge seats,
but I suspect they're about the same place.
No adjustment on the BAS seats though- they are where they are.
The Cessna factory jumpseats sit noticeable farther forward than the BAS seats though--
makes it very tight on knee room.
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Re: Atlee dodge vs. Lakevue jump seats

You can actually add a detent further aft on the track with lakevue seats and it works well. Just realize that they won’t be perfectly horizontal when slid far aft. That said, it works.
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slow18 wrote:Daniel made the seats. Top notch for sure. Mine are also aft of the door post, which someone asked about earlier.

Wow that is very nice looking... Do they still fold OK with the addition of the cushion? Also what thickness is the cushion? I was the one asking about where they sit in relation to the door post. Best I can figure in the other post with pics of them in front of the door post must have been installed incorrectly as the guy at Lakevue assured me that they would be in same place as my current bench seat. I have a 182p and the rear passengers have a lot of legroom so that should work just fine. I feel like I am beating a dead horse with all my questions, but best to get as much info in advance since nobody around me has a set of AD or Lakevue seats to see and try myself. Thanks again everyone for all the advice.
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Re: Atlee dodge vs. Lakevue jump seats

Yes, they fold up. If my seat pads/cushions were any thicker, they would not fold up. I’ll have to measure thickness later.
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Re: Atlee dodge vs. Lakevue jump seats

The worst of all options are the individual cessna jump seats that came standard on many 180/185 to accommodate a third row. They are disgustingly bad in terms of legroom, ease of removal, etc. The front of them is about 3" in front of door post, there is literally negative legroom when the pilot seat is slid back for egress. I'd prefer to have a bench seat over those. Atlee and Lakevue are both a major improvement over the other options.
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Addicted2climbing wrote:.... the guy at Lakevue assured me that they would be in same place as my current bench seat.....


Measure from the door post aft to the backrest on your bench,
and post the info.
I'll do the same with my BAS jumpseats.
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The backrest of my BAS jumpseat is about 14-1/2" aft of the leading edge of the door post. (see photo).
FWIW it could be moved up to about 7" further aft, but you'd have to:
1) remove the stop screw from the (tubular) side rail, &
2) drill another hole for the locking-pin in the Cessna style seat rail.

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