Strip is 1000ft long.
C-182; what can it do?
Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:43 am
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Here is my landing at the house on Friday night. Slightly less than half fuel, and about 350 lbs of Pilot, Black Lab, and gear for the weekend. Wind was nil, DA 3000 ft reported at KPKB. I had to clear the corn which is 12-14 feet tall on the North end of my runway. Stopped in under 400 feet.
Strip is 1000ft long.
Strip is 1000ft long.
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Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:54 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Love the whistling through the wing air vents you get before the stall horn goes off.
Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:41 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Crzyivan13 wrote:Here is my landing at the house on Friday night. Slightly less than half fuel, and about 350 lbs of Pilot, Black Lab, and gear for the weekend. Wind was nil, DA 3000 ft reported at KPKB. I had to clear the corn which is 12-14 feet tall on the North end of my runway. Stopped in under 400 feet.
Strip is 1000ft long.
Very nice!
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Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:27 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Post pictures of the Black Lab!
Kurt
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Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:22 am
C-182; what can it do?
G44 wrote:Post pictures of the Black Lab!
Kurt
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Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:30 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Fantastic Evan! I have a Black Lab too!
Your place is looking great, looks like you have put a lot of work into it. Also, you have a sweet 182.
Kurt
Your place is looking great, looks like you have put a lot of work into it. Also, you have a sweet 182.
Kurt
Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:38 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
182 on Edo amphibs:
Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:59 pm
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Hi, I'm relatively new here, but here's my two cents worth 
I used to own a PZL-104 Wilga, and now own a 182p. The Wilga sure was fun and kept your dancing skills tight, but I love the relatively good short field performance, cruise speed, elbow room, load hauling ability (wife, daughter and dog) and economics of the 182. The later models (182p up?) have a great leading edge camber, and it stalls at almost at the same speed as a Wilga when using 40 deg flap. With a moderate load, they'll leave earth in about 5-7 seconds if practised. The 'land-o-matic' tri gear comes in handy on tight and undulating strips, the only probs are the itsee bitsee standard tyres for rougher stuff. I am in the middle of fitting an Airglas HD nose fork with a 6, and 8.50's on the mains, which will expand my list of destinations. In saying that, even the standard set-up is fine for a lot of places here in Oz. They are easy to hold the nose off during the run-out with lots of elevator, and a rubber stopper (aftermarket.....) on the oleo helps relieve the pain if you slam it down
Here is a a photo of the 8.50's on the main. The new fork is yet to be fitted (this is mandatory for running bigger main tyres on a p model legally).
Hope this helps, whatever you decide, enjoy your new ride!
Cheers!
Dave
I used to own a PZL-104 Wilga, and now own a 182p. The Wilga sure was fun and kept your dancing skills tight, but I love the relatively good short field performance, cruise speed, elbow room, load hauling ability (wife, daughter and dog) and economics of the 182. The later models (182p up?) have a great leading edge camber, and it stalls at almost at the same speed as a Wilga when using 40 deg flap. With a moderate load, they'll leave earth in about 5-7 seconds if practised. The 'land-o-matic' tri gear comes in handy on tight and undulating strips, the only probs are the itsee bitsee standard tyres for rougher stuff. I am in the middle of fitting an Airglas HD nose fork with a 6, and 8.50's on the mains, which will expand my list of destinations. In saying that, even the standard set-up is fine for a lot of places here in Oz. They are easy to hold the nose off during the run-out with lots of elevator, and a rubber stopper (aftermarket.....) on the oleo helps relieve the pain if you slam it down
Here is a a photo of the 8.50's on the main. The new fork is yet to be fitted (this is mandatory for running bigger main tyres on a p model legally).
Hope this helps, whatever you decide, enjoy your new ride!
Cheers!
Dave
Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:42 am
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Since the weak link is the nose gear, what is the advantage of 8.50s over 8.00s on the mains, and having a 6.00 on the nose?
Wouldnt the higher stance push the nose down a bit?
I asume more flotation over the rough stuff, but still the nose gear suffer as much as with 8.00s?
Wouldnt the higher stance push the nose down a bit?
I asume more flotation over the rough stuff, but still the nose gear suffer as much as with 8.00s?
Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:37 am
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Wouldn't that tire size combo keep the mains touching first even in a small flare and make it easier to hold the nose off during roll out?
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Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:28 am
Re: C-182; what can it do?
BRD wrote:182 on Edo amphibs:
Unless I'm mistaken, this one is for sale right now.
Nice plane, PPonk, Sportsman, nice wheel gear, and Dodge folding rear seats but it has an old panel, needs a wing-ex and he wants US$159k.
Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:38 am
Re: C-182; what can it do?
CamTom12 wrote:Wouldn't that tire size combo keep the mains touching first even in a small flare and make it easier to hold the nose off during roll out?
That would be my thought as well. I have thought about doing this, and was thinking about the same tires size as the OP. really the 6 on the front is just to help not fall into a gopher hole or something like that. Whereas the 8.50 mains and some good biceps you should be able to hold the nose up while slowing it down.
BUT.... then again - my plane in is the shop right now getting the nosewheel firewall attachment repaired, replacing the bolt that was spinning free and reshooting some smoked rivets. I've never had a hard nose landing in the 2 years I've owned her, so I think it was something missed on the prebuy....
Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:47 am
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On a scale from 1 to not knowing what the hell I'm talking about 
I lean towards the later...
That said I'v always wondered about the concept of puttingy VGs underneath the horizontal stabilizer? or really the actual elevator itself?
Again not being a rocket surgeon I'm not sure it would be beneficial but you do see VGs utilized this way in Zenith 7 series aircraft, another nosedragger "backcountry capable" airplane.
Forcing the tail down sooner and at slower speeds gets that nosewheel off the ground and prop out of the way sooner as well. I do suppose an STC would be required and a quick search didn't show any out there for this purpose.
I don't know! Just thinking out loud.
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P.S Im suprised no one has thrown up the most recent Backcountry Aviation video about nosewheels in the backcountry... I know its not specific to the C182 but still apropos. (hows that for a fancy word!)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAL52x0TPC4
I lean towards the later...That said I'v always wondered about the concept of puttingy VGs underneath the horizontal stabilizer? or really the actual elevator itself?
Again not being a rocket surgeon I'm not sure it would be beneficial but you do see VGs utilized this way in Zenith 7 series aircraft, another nosedragger "backcountry capable" airplane.
Forcing the tail down sooner and at slower speeds gets that nosewheel off the ground and prop out of the way sooner as well. I do suppose an STC would be required and a quick search didn't show any out there for this purpose.
I don't know! Just thinking out loud.
P.S Im suprised no one has thrown up the most recent Backcountry Aviation video about nosewheels in the backcountry... I know its not specific to the C182 but still apropos. (hows that for a fancy word!)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAL52x0TPC4
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Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:13 pm
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Actually, I think both the available VG kits for the 100 series Cessnas include VGs under the stabilizer. And on the vertical stab as well.
MTV
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Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:37 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
wavzeeee wrote:Hi, I'm relatively new here, but here's my two cents worth
in the middle of fitting an Airglas HD nose fork with a 6, and 8.50's on the mains, which will expand my list of destinations. In saying that, even the standard set-up is fine for a lot of places here in Oz. They are easy to hold the nose off during the run-out with lots of elevator, and a rubber stopper (aftermarket.....) on the oleo helps relieve the pain if you slam it down
Here is a a photo of the 8.50's on the main. The new fork is yet to be fitted (this is mandatory for running bigger main tyres on a p model legally).
[img]https://www.backcountrypilot.org/images/originalphotos/3828/5096/f184b5c56d57a58e3fa754c2.jpg[/img
Think I would go with 8.50s all around. Not sure where are how u fly, but off airport landings big is better. Keep that nose gear high in the air. Put radiator hose with 3 hose clamps on nose strut to keep from bottoming out the strut. Worked for me
Keep the shiney side up and the dirty side down...
Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:47 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Rickshaw84 wrote:On a scale from 1 to not knowing what the hell I'm talking about
That said I'v always wondered about the concept of puttingy VGs underneath the horizontal stabilizer? or really the actual elevator itself?
Again not being a rocket surgeon I'm not sure it would be beneficial but you do see VGs utilized this way in Zenith 7 series aircraft, another nosedragger "backcountry capable" airplane.
Forcing the tail down sooner and at slower speeds gets that nosewheel off the ground and prop out of the way sooner as well. I do suppose an STC would be required and a quick search didn't show any out there for this purpose.
I don't know! Just thinking out loud.
P.S Im suprised no one has thrown up the most recent Backcountry Aviation video about nosewheels in the backcountry... I know its not specific to the C182 but still apropos. (hows that for a fancy word!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAL52x0TPC4
Yeah, look at that big nose wheel, he's in a tail dragger landing attitude and the nose wheel will touch at the same time as the mains.
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Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:50 pm
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I agree, the 8.50s should make no difference to what happens up the front with the 6 on there, in comparison to having 8.00s. I chose the 8.50s to make sure I got the mains down first if the front strut was pumped way up, and to give me the biggest and lightest footprint when touching down in slush (which I have been doing lately - it keeps raining....this is supposed to be Western Australia,,,,) or loose sand. The prop clearance actually doesn't change that much with the tail higher and the minor differences in tyre diameter, depending on the strut pressure, and particularly if you run at lower pressures. I have the option with the Airglas fork of going all the way up to another 8.50 on the front, so I will see how it goes starting with the 6!
Cheers
Cheers
Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:09 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Sorry, I mean't....
The prop clearance actually doesn't change that much with the tail higher and the minor differences in tyre diameter, depending on the nose strut pressure, and particularly if you run at lower main tyre pressures.
The prop clearance actually doesn't change that much with the tail higher and the minor differences in tyre diameter, depending on the nose strut pressure, and particularly if you run at lower main tyre pressures.
Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:21 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
Actually, my preference IF you're running 8.50 on the mains is to run an 8.00 nose tire with the Landes fork. That still retains much of the original geometry of the stock gear, but gives you decent size tires on the mains, and still a pretty good footprint on the nose.
Ditto on attaching a piece of hose to the strut with hose clamps as a back up bumper. SOP in Alaska 206s.
MTV
Ditto on attaching a piece of hose to the strut with hose clamps as a back up bumper. SOP in Alaska 206s.
MTV
Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:15 pm
Re: C-182; what can it do?
mtv wrote:Actually, my preference IF you're running 8.50 on the mains is to run an 8.00 nose tire with the Landes fork. That still retains much of the original geometry of the stock gear, but gives you decent size tires on the mains, and still a pretty good footprint on the nose.
Ditto on attaching a piece of hose to the strut with hose clamps as a back up bumper. SOP in Alaska 206s.
MTV
This is exactly what we're running on our airplane works really good. It's important to make every landing a full stall landing with this tire configuration.
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