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Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

It's a beautiful 4th of July day, but is it a good or safe day to fly? (Happy 4th everyone)

On June 5th we had a lightning strike about 15 miles from my place that started a forest fire that is now 70,000+ acres in size and still burning. The fire has mostly been traveling in a Northeast direction (away from me) as during this time winds have been calm or mostly blowing to the northeast. This morning I awoke to a 4mph south wind and once again smoke in the area. To the best of my knowledge we've only had one airplane crash related to the fire. It was most likely a VFR day but definitely IMC conditions. The pilot flew into a mountain and was killed along with two of the three passengers.

This morning I awoke to yet another beautiful, warm, sunny Alaskan summer day as these pictures show. I needed to fly my 185 from my place over to Soldotna Airport to drop it off with my mechanic. With Soldotna being only 10 miles away and me very familiar with getting there I opted not to bring my iPad to navigate with, but since I've been cautiously flying in the smokey haze for a month now I did set up a route in Foreflight on my iPhone- just in case.

Flying in smoke is extremely dangerous, cause it may not be what it seems until it's too late. So here is a little quiz. Pictures taken from this morning from my place. Imagine your family is over for 4th of July, and either they are begging you to take them flying or your desperately want to take them flying to show them how cool aviation is. This is what you see. Tell us what you think these conditions are? And I mean as soon as you lift off and are 100 feet above the ground- what conditions are you flying in or about to fly in? Give us your thoughts and then I'll tell you what happened and what I saw.

Looking due south. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking due west. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking due east. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking due north. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking southwest. Soldotna Airport is about 10 miles in this direction. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking southeast. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

Happy Fourth!

Barnstormer wrote:
It was most likely a VFR day but definitely IMC conditions.



I'm not sure what you meant by this. XXR and XXC have clear definitions. If it is VMC, then it may be a good day to operate an aircraft under VFR. If it is VMC but you want to operate your plane IFR, then follow the rules and fly IFR. If you are a VFR rated pilot and fly into IMC, you are unfortunately now VFR in IMC which is not a good place to be.

Conditions are never consistent across a geographical region. This is why you can operate an aircraft VFR when the weather forecasters say IFR conditions exist in mountainous terrain, because if you can remain within the visibility and cloud clearance conditions established for VFR flight, then go ahead and fly assuming you stay away from the IMC stuff.

When in a terminal area with good weather resources such as multiple weather cams, one's confidence in the weather immediately upon takeoff is significantly better than when sitting on a gravel bar in the middle of flat terrain with no distant visual references to guide you. There are many stories of pilots not being able to determine the ceiling and visibility and unknowingly taking off into a 200' ceiling. Flat land backcountry flying and areas without good weather services are risk factors.

Unless you have weather cams in the area showing distant terrain features, I have no idea what you might find 1 mile away when you take off and consider your situation similar to being the middle of Alaska with nothing but white above you and no ability to determine how low the ceiling really is. Smoke is often a bit easier since there is no ceiling, but unless you have a good way to determine what 1-3 miles of vis looks like from the ground, there is a good chance you could launch and find yourself in a smokey mess and circling back to land.

From your photos, and only at your specific location, it would appear that you have VMC. You could operate your plane either under VFR or IFR. I have no idea what the conditions are 10 miles in any direction other than you mentioned that Soldotna is 10 miles away and that weather there could be determined by listening to the AWOS and looking at the weather cam.

So I'm curious....what did you find and what did you do?
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

Phil,
What is it?
It’s SUMMER in Alaska
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In Canada we call that SCLR; Severe Clear, go forth and enjoy
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

It's been interesting seeing how the smoke moves around constantly but I thought today was pretty good in comparison to some in the last few weeks. I think the point you're trying to make is that you can't tell how bad it is from pictures like those. You really have no reference to judge visibility. The wx cams with annotations are the key to determining if it's safe. I generally fly from Port Alsworth to Anchorage at least once every other day, sometimes multiple times a day, and to Kenai/Soldotna about as often. Some days, vis is down to 3-5 miles, somedays it's 200.I don't like 3-5 miles of vis when I'm at >3000', but when I'm low and have good reference to the ground and know the terrain, no big deal. What I hate most is that it starts hurting my eyes if I fly in it more than like 4 hours a day. Don't see how those fire pilots do it all day.

One day departing Merrill, you couldn't see the downtown buildings towards the west or the mountains to the east. Tower was calling it 1.5 miles vis so I had to get a special VFR but that only lasted for about 400' off the ground then I was between layers of smoke and had good visibility. This pic is from about 5 mins before departure. Looks hazy but not too bad.
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From June 26, flight from Kenai to Merrill. In this pic, I believe the smoke was acting as a nucleus for the cumulus above it. There were no other clouds in the sky.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

Right you all are. It's 92 degrees here now, my brother just told me 89 in Austin TX. BTW, our fire is now 85,000 acres. All this IMC is making it hard for me to go to Prince William Sound- guess I'll go explore new areas in the Fjords for now.

Okay pictures. All obviously are VFR, but there are some IMC layers which aren't readily apparent until off the ground.

Pic 1 South is the direction I took off. Just off the end of the runway as I climbed thru 100 ft AGL I entered the smoke layer and visibility dropped to a couple of miles. It stayed with me to my cruising altitude of 1,000 ft MSL I did end up using my iPhone/Foreflight to keep me on direction because none of the landmarks I use were visible. As I neared Soldotna visibility improved to probably three miles.

Pic 2 West, I didn't fly that way but in the air it looked about the same.

Pic 3 East, had I turned that way off the runway I would have been immediately in IMC on climb out. From my runway to where the mountains are was a dense smoke layer that obscure everything. Doesn't look like that would be the case does it.

Pic 4 North, a little better than West or South but since that is in the direction of the fire I suspect it would go IMC quickly.

Pic 5 Southwest, the direction to Soldotna whose conditions I already mentioned. From the ground it looked great and completely benign. This picture is taken at the South end of the runway right where I climbed into the smoke layer just 100 feet off the ground. Doesn't even look like there is a smoke layer.

Pic 6 Southeast, same conditions as flying East, a 1,000 foot IMC layer that you really can't see until in the air. (pretty sure that's a bug not an eagle in the photo).

My long winded point is that around smoke looks can be deceiving. Flying in the smoke you can sometimes see up or down pretty well, you just can't se forward. And the density of the smoke can changed in an instant, and with no warning. Like I said it's been 30 days tomorrow since this fire started, and it's summer- flying season- and an epic summer weather wise so obviously going flying. So let's be extra cautious around smoke, whether the fire is in Alaska, Idaho, Montana, California or anywhere else- let's not make the news.

Looking due south. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking due west. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking due east. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking due north. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking southwest. Soldotna Airport is about 10 miles in this direction. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Looking southeast. Is this VFR, MVFR, or IFR? Is it VMC or IMC?
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Here's a few pictures of the Swan Lake fire that I took in its early days before the TFR and before it was really being fought.

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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

I wrote a knowledge base article about it. I can imagine the phenomenon, and the consequences, are greater in AK.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

Several years ago I used my Beaver to fly crews and provisions out to the fire lines in N. Saskatchewan. Smoke was was unflyable when calm but I could work my way around when wind got up. Dropped fuel at one camp just as the fire went to sleep for the night; In the time it took to unload three barrels visibility dropped to 100 yard. I spent the night with the fire crew in the bush. They had just got there so no tents only bags. The black flies tried to eat us up. Tough guys working a fire for two weeks like that. Even the bombers didn't fly till wind rose in late morning.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

I operated in this area today. It wasn't too bad. I saw on the faa weather cams that there was visibility, and windy.com showed that my flight path was upwind of the fire, and I wanted a little break from the heat and smoke, so we rolled down to Homer for the night.

Going from 90F to 72F with a light sea breeze was all I dreamt it could be.

Even got a beach landing in.....
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

I got stuck in Fairbanks a few years ago when the wind shifted and blew smoke in from the South. Then the wind quit and the smoke just hung.

2mi vis, no ceiling. I got a SVFR departure and tried to head out. No dice, the vis dropped the further southeast I went. Luckily I was over the Tanana flats and there’s only 3 potential things to hit down there. I turned around near Eielson and had to circle outside the Class D to wait on a commercial plane before they could let me back in SVFR.

It was a big learning experience for me.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

Those clouds are called Pyrocumulus. If the fire is intense enough they can build up into a mature thunder cell and even put out lightening.

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From June 26, flight from Kenai to Merrill. In this pic, I believe the smoke was acting as a nucleus for the cumulus above it. There were no other clouds in the sky.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

Flying in smoke is one of the less enjoyable things about flying in Idaho but it's like the wind here; if you don't want to fly in wind or smoke then you either don't fly or don't live in East Idaho. Picking which smokey days are flyable is a challenge. I used to be somewhat cavalier but I'm quite cautious these days.

Scariest part, imo, is how fast things can change. Visibility can go from sorta ok to nothing before you even realize anything was changing.

Typical smoke in the Frank Church during the late summer.
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View from the ground looking northish.
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Looking southish.
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On a different flight through the Frank I was dealing with a few fires but had decent forward visibility.

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Till I didn't...
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Vertical visibility remained ok which is likely what kept me alive.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

We have a variety of sky conditions in western WA ranging from severe clear to low scud & foggy haze.
They get used to the latter, or you don't fly much a good part of the year.
The last 2 summers, we had a lot of smoke from fires up in BC, and viz was way down.
I flew in it some, checking my GPS when certain landmarks came into view viz was in the neighborhood of 5 to 6 miles.
5 or 6 miles viz in scuddy weather is different than 5 or 6 miles viz in smoke. I didn't like it.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

Here are some cool pictures of an early morning smoke inversion. In this case the inversion broke in a matter of minutes causing almost IFR conditions in an instant!

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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

Wonder what pilots in the LA basin talked about back in the late sixties when the air was a brown haze some days? This is back when the air inside the car with three lit cigarettes was easier to breath as a non smoking dumb kid than the air outside...

Out here on the west coast of Alaska we’ve had a couple days of less than three miles visibility due to smoke......and no mail planes.


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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

The angle of the sun makes a big difference...huge, in fact. I'm super-leery of getting down into a canyon with smoke and a low sun angle, as you can go from perfect visibility to zero visibility in a turn...like coming around to land, or when the canyon changes direction.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

I’d much rather fly in smoke than scudded low clouds. Smoke is usually consistent meaning if you have 1-3 miles visibility it usually stays at 1-3 miles, as you travel through it. Plus the fact when you look out your window straight down you will see terrain. Look at the fire TFRs on the map, plan accordingly. Also just slow your plane down a little, you don’t need to be hauling butt through the valleys full throttle. It’s scary at first, but when you stay down in it you learn quickly that it doesn’t just go hard IFR instantly.

With clouds and scudded weather, that’s not the same as smoke, scuddy clouds is not consistent so when your flying along with 3 miles vis and seeing the ground below, the next minute you could be in total 100% hard IFR instantly with no warning, no visual reference to turn around, with the fact that the ground below is gone, and the mountain you were looking at is now total white wash. I’ll stay with smoke over low crap clouds any day , been flying in every year for years now.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

AKJurnee wrote:... Smoke is usually consistent meaning if you have 1-3 miles visibility it usually stays at 1-3 miles, as you travel through it. ...


Sure not my experience! I think one of the most insidious aspects of smoke is how quickly and dramatically the visibility will change, without being able to see it coming the way you can with clouds.
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Hammer wrote:
AKJurnee wrote:... Smoke is usually consistent meaning if you have 1-3 miles visibility it usually stays at 1-3 miles, as you travel through it. ...


Sure not my experience! I think one of the most insidious aspects of smoke is how quickly and dramatically the visibility will change, without being able to see it coming the way you can with clouds.


Not my experience either. Maybe if you are a great distance from the fire but I have had a couple of bad experiences losing visibility without any indication it was coming. Smoke sucks. Be careful.
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Re: Flying in smoke/smokey haze- safe or not?

A pilot who believes that visibility in smoke will remain consistent is bound to be disappointed one of these days.

If you are flying a considerable distance from the source of the smoke, the visibility tends to even out, and be generally fairly consistent.....did I use enough qualifiers there? #-o

But, if there's a fire closer, visibility can change very quickly from a few miles visibility to near zero visibility in no time at all. And, depending on where you're at when that happens, it can be a deeply moving religious experience.

For twenty seasons, I worked from Fairbanks to the north, most days, including in the big fire seasons of 1988 and 2004. In 88, I started attending the morning fire briefing on Fort Wainwright to get a better sense of where the fires were, and how active. Also, where crews were working the fires.

For perspective, that was the year that Yellowstone burned. In that season, fires burned ~ 770,000 acres. The media went nuts. Before any of those fires started, we'd burned 1.2 million acres just on the area that I worked on in Alaska, the Yukon Flats. Just one of those fires burned 1.1 million acres, part on and off the Refuge.

And, we had fires most years, some worse than others. I saw pretty much every flavor of smoke phenomena I can imagine, and several I couldn't imagine.

I tried filing IFR, which worked for a while, till one day I was headed north and Departure Control called to give me a frequency change, and asked if I was aware of the thunderstorm cell ahead of me. I replied that I wasn't, and asked where it was.....radar replied it was at 12 o'clock and four miles......

I requested a 180 and return to FAI.

I spent so much time during those summers scud running through the White Mountains and over the Yukon Flats......oh, and getting from the White Mountains south to Fairbanks in the afternoons.....at 100 feet, ground contact and maybe a mile visibility.

Then again, I was getting paid to get the work done.

It was always with mixed emotion for me when the "monsoon" rains started in mid to late July in the interior. It put out the fires, but then the scud running continued under very low ceilings and visibility......

I have to agree with a comment that Hammer made, regarding sun angle and smoke. Changing sun angle can dramatically change visibility in smoke, an interesting and potentially frightening phenomenon.

One day I was headed north out of FAI to meet a helicopter which was helping move crews on the Flats. I was to meet him at a certain lake, and pick up his crew to move them to a different lake. Fort Yukon, where the helicopter was based, was giving 3 miles vis. Fairbanks was clear, but I knew there was smoke to the north.

As I'm slithering down Beaver Creek through the White Mountains, the helicopter pilot called on FM and informed me that he was returning to Fort Yukon because the visibility was down to 1/4 mile where he was.

So, I turned around in the canyon, to head back to FAI. And, the visibility went from a mile and a half or so to nil, as the sun angle I was seeing changed. I did another 180 in the canyon, and considered my options. So, being very familiar with the mountain to my right (I did Dall's Sheep surveys in these mountains each fall), I opted to initiate a climb, following the side of the mountain up to it's summit at about 6000 feet. I called for a pop up IFR clearance and continued the climb to 8000 feet, turned around and returned to FAI IFR. I broke out of the goo about ten north of FAI.

The other phenomenon that can be sneaky is when the sky is smoky, the smoke settles over night as the atmosphere cools. As the sun warms the earth and air, the smoke becomes less dense, but the top of the smoke goes higher. There were times when I went north over the top of the early morning smoke, which was settled in the valleys. But, coming back in the PM, the tops were much higher.

And, here's the sneaky part: In the afternoon, you look up, and you see blue sky above. You assume that you can easily climb up to that clear sky and get above the smoke. So, you initiate a climb......and climb.....and climb. And, up around 12,000 feet, you realize you're not getting on top of this stuff. Oh, and by the way, you've now lost ground contact. You are officially in IMC.

And, of course, there's more. Bottom line: I don't fly in smoke voluntarily, unless it's more like a light haze.

Oh, yeah, and watch out for those TFRs. They too can bite you.

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