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Re: Mars Rover Curiosity-Landing 8-5-12

GumpAir wrote:If it wasn't for human's built-in curiosity and drive to learn, explore, and discover we'd still be living in caves and flinging poo at each other. Though, as we breed ourselves stupid as a species, we may be doing it again.

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I sincerely doubt that the early pioneers of flight had even the slightest inclination of the direction their efforts would take mankind. They did it for the same curiosity. I, for one, am quite glad there was no one asking for a balance sheet back then.
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I would be a lot more keen on seeing my tax dollars spent on this if I thought NASA and its contractors were actually sharing everything they find with the people who pay for it. As a kid in the 1960s, I was a real space junkie. Sat glued to the TV for every Mercury and Gemini flight and the unmanned probes to the Moon and Mars. I wanted nothing but to be an astronaut (got frustratingly close to flying as a mission specialist on the shuttle in the 80s, but that's another story for another day). Anyway, I remember first hand seeing the first color pictures from the Viking mars lander. Looked a lot like the desert southwest (some say it was the desert southwest). One thing about those early pictures that struck me is the sky. It was blue and quite earth like. Sometime later, NASA issued a press release stating they "made a mistake" adjusting the colors and released retouched pictures showing a far more "alien" looking pink sky. The Martian sky as been pink ever sense. Problem is, the rovers currently on mars have a little color wheel riveted to them, visible in many pictures. There are also pictures of this color wheel taken before the rover left earth. The purpose of the wheel is to verify the colors transmitted by the cameras - essentially if the color wheel on Mars looks like the one on Earth, everything else will be the right color. But, in the pictures released to the public, the color wheels don't match, and when you use a graphics program to adjust the colors in the NASA released pictures to get the wheel right, the sky turns...wait for it...blue! I even saw a NASA press release a few months ago admitting that the Martian shy "might" be "blueish." WTF else are they hiding? I'm not saying there's a Martian hiding behind every rock, but if there were, we the people who pay for this would be the last to know.

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Well as they say opinions are like ass holes everybody has one, I am still with Sky Truck. But then again I place a higher value on a dogs life than 99.9999% of all humans.
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Yes, and I remember all the conspiracy theories that said the lunar landings were filmed on earth. Problem is that now there are hundreds of photos taken from all over the world that show the lunar landers. I loved the one about the space shuttle punching holes in the ozone layer. 70's and 80's video technology was crappy at best so no shocker that the video feed was less than stellar after being broadcast by a small transmitter on Mars. Brings up more space program spin-offs,... satellite TV and satellite phones.
We all know the government's inability to keep secrets. How in the world do you explain their ability to cover-up multiple moon landings and mars landings? Some mass grave in Roswell that contains all the workers, technicians , and videographers?
No big surprise that a dry lifeless planet looks like Arizona. No water or intelligent life there either.
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See an ass hole with an opinion already :D
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Like the incredibly brilliant lady congresswoman (Sheila Jackson I think) said,,,, "you think they can drive that rover over to where the flag was planted." :roll: #-o
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Arizona native checking in here..... some days, I must agree with you.... :oops:
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flightlogic wrote:Arizona native checking in here..... some days, I must agree with you.... :oops:

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Sometimes it's almost too easy.
Actually my mother-in-law lives there and I lived in Flagstaff for a little while.
Hey and Sheriff Joe lives there. =D>
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iceman wrote:Like the incredibly brilliant lady congresswoman (Sheila Jackson I think) said,,,, "you think they can drive that rover over to where the flag was planted." :roll: #-o

That's right up there with the distinguished congressman from GA who thought that Guam would flip over if the Navy put too many new service personnel on the new base.
You know, you just can't make this stuff up.
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Finally... Pictures.

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SkyTruck wrote:Can Mars support a freeking mico-organism? Who gives a shit!
If it could, what the hell could we do about it... Keeping in mind, we are f&@;^*#, Broke!
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Our whole existence is based on thinking we're freaks of nature; that we are one of a kind living in this impossibly narrow band were conditions are just right and so delicately balanced that it couldn't possibly exist anywhere else. If Mars is proven to be able to support life it changes the probability that we are not alone. If they actually found a micro-organism... oh man! A discovery like that would be on the order of finding out the earth isn't flat. Imagine finding alien life right next door. It would change everything! Literally. It would turn the worlds of science, philosophy, and religion upside down. How cool would that be?
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JRStripe wrote:
SkyTruck wrote:Can Mars support a freeking mico-organism? Who gives a shit!
If it could, what the hell could we do about it... Keeping in mind, we are f&@;^*#, Broke!
Signed,
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Imagine finding alien life right next door. It would change everything! Literally. It would turn the worlds of science, philosophy, and religion upside down. How cool would that be?


I must have an alien living next door to me...and it's not one bit cool. I don't care about science, religion, or philosophy I just wished she would move! I would buy her a one way ticket to anywhere she would like to go...broke or not! :twisted:
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GumpAir wrote:Finally... Pictures.

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hicountry wrote:
JRStripe wrote:
SkyTruck wrote:Can Mars support a freeking mico-organism? Who gives a shit!
If it could, what the hell could we do about it... Keeping in mind, we are f&@;^*#, Broke!
Signed,
A maxed out taxpayer!


Imagine finding alien life right next door. It would change everything! Literally. It would turn the worlds of science, philosophy, and religion upside down. How cool would that be?


I must have an alien living next door to me...and it's not one bit cool. I don't care about science, religion, or philosophy I just wished she would move! I would buy her a one way ticket to anywhere she would like to go...broke or not! :twisted:


Hmmm.... what does she look like? :oops:
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JRStripe wrote:
SkyTruck wrote:Can Mars support a freeking mico-organism? Who gives a shit!
If it could, what the hell could we do about it... Keeping in mind, we are f&@;^*#, Broke!
Signed,
A maxed out taxpayer!


Our whole existence is based on thinking we're freaks of nature; that we are one of a kind living in this impossibly narrow band were conditions are just right and so delicately balanced that it couldn't possibly exist anywhere else. If Mars is proven to be able to support life it changes the probability that we are not alone. If they actually found a micro-organism... oh man! A discovery like that would be on the order of finding out the earth isn't flat. Imagine finding alien life right next door. It would change everything! Literally. It would turn the worlds of science, philosophy, and religion upside down. How cool would that be?


With trillions of galaxies in the observable universe, each with trillions of stars, and physicists' latest theories that our "universe" is just one in an infinite, multidimensional "multiverse," chances we're alone are unimaginably small, even if life were a rare commodity that could only exist in a narrow set of conditions. It's not. Right here on earth, life has already been shown to exist in a huge range of conditions, including boiling hot gas vents at the bottom of the ocean where temperatures and pressures exceed those of a hospital autoclave. During the Apollo missions, they found live microbes on the Surveyor unmanned space probe that hitched a ride from Earth and survived just fine in an airless, high radiation environment with temperatures that can vary 400 degrees from day to night. As for microbes on Mars, we've already "discovered" 'em. The early Viking lander carried out rudimentary experiments to find evidence of microbial life. It did. NASA later said the experiment was flawed. Once more, they've recently admitted, "Well, maybe it wasn't flawed." Later, in the 1980, scientists found what some claim was fossilized microbes in a Martian meteorite. Again, that one is still disputed but plenty of "serious" scientists have come down on the side of Martian life. But who care about microbes. Wanna see something interesting, do a google image search on "trees on Mars." Yea, NASA goes to great pains to tell you why the trees you are looking at aren't trees at all bot an optical illusion. You decide.

Life isn't hard to create. All I have to do is forget to clean out my coffee pot before a three day trip. I little boiled (sterile) water, a bit of organic material (old coffee grounds), come home three days later and presto - Life (yuck)!

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Now if we could just give 50% of our defense budget to NASA we would again spur innovation that made the original space race and our country great and still have the largest military.......

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Mongo wrote:Now if we could just give 50% of our defense budget to NASA we would again spur innovation that made the original space race and our country great and still have the largest military.......

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Yea but only if they would put missile pylons on it and maybe some lazer's,and big ass canon..oh yeah!! :twisted:
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