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hardtailjohn wrote:
Aerco wrote:
hardtailjohn wrote:Polyfiber is a great system...I've used it for many years. Stewart's is an awesome system....and all that I'll use anymore. Their topcoat is by far the most flexible I've ever found!! I've got fabric samples that are more than 10 years old and you can still wad them up in a little ball and spread them back out, and not a crack anywhere. Really good stuff!
Be safe!
John


Curious. I do fabric covering for a living and I mostly use Polyfiber, my favorite system. I've seen Stewart and seen both good and terrible results; flaking and peeling within a couple of years, heavy and brittle. I've never seen a Stewart covered airplane older than two years that looked good. I'm sure it's mostly use-error, but I'm not impressed. Especially considering the cost. I'm usually stick with Polyfiber and if people want a fancy shiny (heavy) top coat. I send them to the local paint shop for some Ranthane.


Well, I do it for a living too. Have for over 35 years. I've seen a few messed up Stewarts System jobs, but seen a whole lot more that were awesome!! I've never seen a heavy or brittle one. I've got samples that I shot in the 90's that you can still wad up into a little ball and flatten out with NO cracking...never seen ANY other system able to match that. Quite a few aircraft are out there flying and staying outside that are 20+ years old. As far as heavy, I'm not sure where you're getting that. It's one of the lightest systems out there, by a substantial margin. As far as cost, it's actually less when you factor in shipping and the fact that you're not buying any thinners or anything like that. Not to mention the safety factor of it all, which is why I got involved with it in 96. I had the choice of quitting or finding another way to cover....or being dead. I think you're confusing Stewarts with the old Blue River system...don't feel bad, many make that mistake, but the 2 aren't related.
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Well you have seen one that's cracking John. Pictures of one at least. Still hoping to hear an answer on it sooner then later as I have another Scout to recover and want to start sometime soon. Right now I wont be using Stewarts on it as I dont want it cracking a year from now. I really liked the process and lack of chemicals. The painting is a bit more labor just keeping clean and scuffing. But I still really liked it if it weren't for the cracking and extreme brittleness less then 12 months later. The other problem for us northerners is the shipping. Can't ship when it's cold and only a 12 month shelf life of the materials. Polyfiber holds advantages here. Stewart's is super easy to repair though. Easier then polyfiber I find. Stewart's is not heavier unless you just put way to much paint/primer on in my experience.
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Ha! David, I thought of yours this morning as I was busting through some brush, chasing a miserable old cow, and I just got done a few minutes ago. You're right, I HAVE seen one that cracked! That's what I get for operating late at night! I'm still doing some experimenting to see what I can find out about the problem you had. That one sure baffles me. I'm gonna bug Andy about that again tomorrow!
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hardtailjohn wrote:Ha! David, I thought of yours this morning as I was busting through some brush, chasing a miserable old cow, and I just got done a few minutes ago. You're right, I HAVE seen one that cracked! That's what I get for operating late at night! I'm still doing some experimenting to see what I can find out about the problem you had. That one sure baffles me. I'm gonna bug Andy about that again tomorrow!
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Man if cows didnt taste so damn good I'd have no use for them! I chased a few around this weekend to.
It is an interesting case for sure...
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Rob wrote:Yes and No.... Polytone is Polyfibres dope. It is MEK based. You can do a quick google on the MSDS sheets for MEK and decide for yourself if you think a fresh air system is overkill. It is certainly less damaging to your body than a catalyzed system using a volatile carrier.
If I were using a polyfibre system I would use Polytone. But that's just as a matter of preference. It is only about 1000 times easier to repair (and look good) than Aerothane.
I can't really go along with the weekend warrior analogy. A hobbyair fresh air system is a lot cheaper than a set of lungs. Maybe it would be a good time to approach the local EAA chapter and see if they have one. If not maybe it's a good time for them to pony up and get one? This is about like saying one cigarette will not give you cancer, and it probably won't... But can you tell the guy dying which one it was?
All of these considerations where what I based my suggestion for the Stewarts Sytem on. All of these systems have their merits and their weaknesses... a guy just needs to pick the one that makes sence and one that he can apply well.
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I have a Hobby Air supplied air system, bought new for my last build 13 years ago (Poly Fiber/Polytone) and stored in the paint booth ever since. PM me, anyone who could use it. $200.00.
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I use an air hood with poly-tone. I bought a Graco complete HVLP set up in the 90's. ($600.00)Now the only thing I use it for is air for my hood and I do all my spraying with my 15 dollar Harbor Freight HVLP gun. (even cheaper with the 20% off coupon)
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I have a Hobby Air supplied air system, bought new for my last build 13 years ago (Poly Fiber/Polytone) and stored in the paint booth ever since. PM me, anyone who could use it. $200.00.[/quote]


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A1Skinner wrote:/quote]Man if cows didnt taste so damn good I'd have no use for them! I chased a few around this weekend to.
It is an interesting case for sure...


Amen to that!!! Sometimes I still wonder......
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