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Re: 1955 Cessna 170B rebuild

mtv wrote:...So, my point is...
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Somewhere in there I know there is an "I was wrong." :wink: We love you Mike!

And to the OP, sorry for the thread drift. Back to your kick ass 170!
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Re: 1955 Cessna 170B rebuild

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mtv wrote:...So, my point is...
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Somewhere in there I know there is an "I was wrong." :wink: We love you Mike!

And to the OP, sorry for the thread drift. Back to your kick ass 170!


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Hahahaha... For sure! He's laughing because behind the scenes I have been asking him for ski advice cuz he knows I know nuthing... LOL
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Re: 1955 Cessna 170B rebuild

Beautiful airplane, Ky--very impressive. Just think, I "knew" you when you were just learning to fly! And now you've got a great airplane so that you don't have to rent. Good job!!!

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Re: 1955 Cessna 170B rebuild

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mtv wrote:Now, those 10 inch wheels do weigh a little more than a 6 inch wheel, but, not THAT much.

As to Internet “data”, I’ve found that Airframes’ information is pretty accurate on items I’ve used. Desser....not so much.

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They are double the weight, 16lbs vs 8lbs.

My Airhawks are 52lbs a side on my scale.

I’ve been flying with them on instead of my bushwheels this winter, they shake out there on the gear leg a LOT more. It was/still is a bit unnerving.


Are these buffed or stock?

ANY big tire will shake a lot on a Cessna gear. I’ve run a 185 with these tires and really didn’t care for them, mostly because where I was running them, they weren’t needed....working really solid gravel bars, etc.

But, I for one would never put a big Bushwheel on a Cessna gear either, unless I REALLY needed them, and if that were the case, I might start thinking about a different airplane.....but that’s me.

But—-worried about weight on Cessna gear, and consequent gear shake? Greg is going to have a shock when he gets those C-3200 wheel skis installed on his 180.

Try installing a set of C-3600 retractable wheel skis out there. Now, you’ve got 6 inch wheels, brakes calipers, (small) tires AND about 65 or so pounds of ski hanging on each gear leg. Now you’ll see some gear shake. And on skis, you’re beating the crap out of that gear. Ski flying is about as hard on the gear as anything out there.

I ran this setup all winter on a 185 for at least twelve winters, with no problems.

A fellow I know ran the same setup on an older 185 and had a gear leg break at the axle mount. After that, he had his gear dye penetrant tested every year before the skis went on. I think that was a bit of overkill, but having the gear checked every few years probably isn’t a bad idea with this much weight out there.

I also ran AWB 2500 wheel skis on my C-170B which had early 180 gear. Similar weights on those skis, and never broke anything, but gear shake? Oh yeah!

So, my point is, if you don’t really NEED those big tires, I sure wouldn’t run them. They no doubt cause stresses on the gear and gearboxes. But understand that these gears were tested by the manufacturer and in the field with significantly heavier loads out there, and in REALLY rough conditions, and frankly, gear breakages are pretty rare.

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Just put a set of 3200's on, +135.5 LBS install weight. That's with the airplane on 600x6's. At least that's what cessna said for the complete install.
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Re: 1955 Cessna 170B rebuild

To clear the air here a bit...I'm really only running the 29x11x10 setup for now as I had the chance to. They are a set we acquired through a local guy who decided to do something different and the boss man wanted them around for his 180 when he goes to Alaska every now and again. I had the 6" wheel and 8.50's on there and still have them mounted up ready to go. The first flight or two I felt the weight change as well.

I do not recall now exactly what they weighed in at but it was the mid 40's to upper 40# range each. Being a slower airplane I don't notice the wheel bounce much or maybe I am used to it by now... :wink: My gear legs were removed and checked for any cracking while doing the project as well as gear boxes inspected and the Pponk kit was freshly installed right before I acquired it. I am not worried about day to day flying causing any issues with these. If constantly off airport and running over stuff I could see being more concerned certainly. Also made me sit towards the front end of my CG. Consequently I have a few permanent things I carry like most people do in the back so it all works out. I have to taxi quite a bit on pavement at my home airport so I like that about them as well. Come summer I may just end up with the 8.50x6's on most of the time. It's all a learning curve!

Carey, if you see this, i recall talking with you quite a bit early on when I first started flying. Getting ready to take on my 135 vfr checkride here in a few weeks and fly Turbo 206's and Turbo 210's in the backcountry here in Idaho this summer. Have quite a bit of time already in both of these airplanes but when I'm all alone PIC up there its going to be a whole new world AGAIN. :lol:

You guys are great, thanks for all the help along the way!
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