I replaced the windshield in my 52 170B last December with the wings on and it was very easy. It was the one piece. Working under the panel was the hardest part and even that was not bad.

BRD wrote:

A very clean, minimalist panel, with an interesting mix of old school and new--
an electronic engine monitor and iPhone GPS, teamed with a KX170 nav/com.

hotrod180 wrote:

BRD wrote:

A very clean, minimalist panel, with an interesting mix of old school and new--
an electronic engine monitor and iPhone GPS, teamed with a KX170 nav/com.

Am I missing the iPhone mount? Looks more like a 796 to me. But I agree, very nice panel.

Yes a 796. He's saving pennies for a digital Nav/Com to replace the old King.

BRD wrote:Joe Dunlap is putting a new panel and interior into Lucky Rose. Almost done (hasn't got to the headliner or windshield yet).



(Leather seats with carbon fiber center panel)

Looking good and clean!

Here is where I got to today, small changes here and there. Had to make my last little piece to fit the top of the center panel area.Thinking of having my N number engraved or etched on it somehow. Ideas??

If I had a U style yoke I would have the ipad mount at the top and radios on the bottom, would make more sense. With getting the field approval for cutting down my standard T yoke I was able to accomplish the 6 pack design and still get radio and transponder at the top with the ipad mount. Overall it can be changed easy in the radio sack department if I or someone down the road wants to ad the U style yoke.

Panel is nearly fully complete, engine is hung, working on getting the correct baffling with my "newer" 59" 172 style nose bowl. Just need to start wiring it all in!

Going with a 1 piece windshield, thinking it needs the wings hung to fit the window correctly..

Here is the nose bowl, working on getting the lower to match up properly, also the baffling will change.

Ok guys, main options for flap tunnel cover pretty much carpet or Selkirk? REALLY wanting the Atlee Dodge rear seats, that rear bench will hopefully not see much time in this airplane.

Open to ideas, in all honesty this is a project that is being done on a very limited budget as I have access to lots of used parts but it is a scavenger hunt most of the time.

Panel, instrument wise, is staying fairly old school except for the engine monitor, again got lucky and came out of a salvage aircraft. The CGR30 and things like that are cool dont get me wrong.

I've searched and found some cool ideas, lots of smart talented folks out there rebuilding these aircraft. Feel free to share any pictures or links if you so feel of 170/180's that have good simple, lightweight, interiors.

Unless they REALLY fit your mission, I'd advise passing on the Atlee Dodge folding seats. At $3,150 plus instillation, they're fantastically overpriced for their utility unless you regularly shuffle between cargo and passengers.

They're not very light. They're not at all comfortable. They do go in and out quickly, but I never leave mine in since I rarely cary a rear passenger, and if I do I know about it ahead of time. It's nice to be able to have one seat in and still use the rest of the room for cargo, but in eight years I've done that exactly twice. The rest of the time I could have just used the bench seat, and the passenger would have appreciated the extra luxury.

They were installed in my airplane when I bought it, and while I appreciate having them, I wouldn't sped the money on them in another airplane. You've got to really, really, really hate taking that bench seat in and out to justify the cost.

Kyle: I used the following paint on my 170B flap tunnel. I'll try to get a picture of the tunnel and post it. I'm pleased with the result. Also mighty pleased with my Atlee Dodge jump seats. To each their own. Ain't that the beauty of it.

I worked a number of planes with the Atlee seats and the "other" folding seats and always loved the flexibility of them. My 170 had a sling seat in the rear....a lot less flexible.....no way to do three seats and long stuff. But the sling seat was orders of magnitude better than that POS huge back seat.

Check salvage yards...might find one folding seat.....plug it in and leave it there till you find another. You may never need the second.

The sling seat wouldn't be that hard to fabricate if you could find one to copy. Just a bunch of tubing. It's on the TC so no approval needed.

Me, I'd install one Atlee seat or find a late 180/185 rear jump seat.

MTV

I sort of fall in the middle here. I had a single Atlee seat put in passenger side.
A few photos of the UTILITY interior under "for sale pics" under Wannabe n4650c.

At first I added it as a bit of humor so I could claim that it was there for rescuing Cub Drivers.
Hold over from my 77 IH Scout days when I almost always ended up towing a jeep on most 4x4 runs.

The jump seat ended up being the best place to lash down my flight bag with lunch and all.
I rode that seat for over two hours, (plain - utility only), and was surprised how comfortable it was.
Why me in the back? Checking out two CFIs during flight across Calif.

Having only the one made it much easier to slide my butt in to load up back of baggage area.
During my early "enfant terrible" days of thinking I needed to pack in every STC available I thought about the baggage door addition as a bragging point but a/the man, (Harry Delicker), with the STC said it was not worth the cost and effort. With only one Jump seat I had relatively easy access for loading.

Had a plastic misc. parts and supplies box that would slide in from the rear of the jump seat and stayed there without and further need for lashing it.

NuffForNow
To each their own.
Chris C

I don't dispute that the Atlee Dodge seats have some utility...I just don't think that said utility is very close to the price point for most users.

I guess a lot of it has to do with how you use your airplane. We use ours almost exclusively for multi-day backcountry trips, and there aren't many opportunities for hauling a third passenger in a 170, even with the 0-360 and a CS prop. I bet I don't haul a back seat passenger four times a year.

At Idaho DA's with a 0-300, taking a third person into the backcountry is going to be a rather rare event, unless it's just a day trip, and even then... There are strips that will work, but most won't, most the time.

If for some reason you're constantly switching from needing full cargo space to extra passenger seating, they're probably worth it. If you only do that transition a few times a year, then you could hire a bloody mechanic to do the bench seat removal and installation for ten years before you broke even. On a budget airplane rebuild they seem like a mighty big extravagance to me.

I'd much rather put that money into the panel, or the glass, or the FRONT seats, or installing BAS shoulder straps and pull handles and extended baggage, or...well, just about anything I actually utilize every flight, rather than a few times a year.

That's just me though.

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hotrod180 wrote:

BRD wrote:

A very clean, minimalist panel, with an interesting mix of old school and new--
an electronic engine monitor and iPhone GPS, teamed with a KX170 nav/com.

No needle and ball?

That's what your but is for!


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I would never install a turn coordinator or turn and bank instrument in an airplane that didn't have one. As a flight instructor, I've put enough certified instrument pilots under the hood on needle ball and airspeed and the failure rate in that mode is pretty high. For someone who's never flown IFR much at all, or isn't rated, it's a real trial to keep one upright with one of those instruments, it seems.

I WOULD, however, install one of these: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/i ... key=365437 high on the panel in front of the pilot. Trust me, they help, and the 170 isn't the most stable airplane in yaw ever flown.

But, if I were doing a 170 panel today, I'd install a Garmin G-5 if I could afford it. http://www.chiefaircraft.com/avionics/g ... aQodgK8AUQ If I couldn't afford it, I'd make a hole in the panel for it, and cover it till I could afford one.

But, the passengers in that airplane will appreciate a slip/skid ball at the very least.

MTV

mtv wrote:I WOULD, however, install one of these: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/i ... key=365437 high on the panel in front of the pilot. Trust me, they help...

MTV

Forget that... Install one of these!

mtv wrote:I would never install a turn coordinator or turn and bank instrument in an airplane that didn't have one. As a flight instructor, I've put enough certified instrument pilots under the hood on needle ball and airspeed and the failure rate in that mode is pretty high. For someone who's never flown IFR much at all, or isn't rated, it's a real trial to keep one upright with one of those instruments, it seems.

I WOULD, however, install one of these: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/i ... key=365437 high on the panel in front of the pilot. Trust me, they help, and the 170 isn't the most stable airplane in yaw ever flown.

But, if I were doing a 170 panel today, I'd install a Garmin G-5 if I could afford it. http://www.chiefaircraft.com/avionics/g ... aQodgK8AUQ If I couldn't afford it, I'd make a hole in the panel for it, and cover it till I could afford one.

But, the passengers in that airplane will appreciate a slip/skid ball at the very least.

MTV

A ball, in one form or another. That's what I was implying. I've got a ball in the Airbus I fly. Ball and airspeed. I wasn't talking about partial panel stuff. Ball and airspeed. And coffee.

Bigrenna wrote:

mtv wrote:I WOULD, however, install one of these: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/i ... key=365437 high on the panel in front of the pilot. Trust me, they help...

MTV

Forget that... Install one of these!

Now we're talking.....and I'm betting if you just velcro'd that dude to the glare shield, it'd be a logbook entry..

MTV