Awesome thread.

I've been scared enough in planes that are maintained by professionals and flown by professionals that I can honestly say I've never seriously pondered the merit of paying an amateur pilot to fly me or my family in a plane maintained or rebuilt by an amateur.

I am no fan of regulation, but I am glad regulation exists to prevent what you are suggesting.

Customer: "How much is a flight through the Canyon Grand?"
Big dude: "I can do it for $20 bucks a head, but I need at least 7 passengers"
Customer: "Is that Cessna 180 parked outside with the beer can patches on the side and the lawnmower tires for mains certified for that many people?
Big dude: "Certification is for losers. I don't buy into this regulation bullshit, you think I'm some stooge that spends a bunch of money on training and maintenance? I'm not even a qualified pilot. Freedom rules!"
Customer: "Sounds awesome. Here's my money."
Big dude: "Hold my beer."

I think Dogpilot gave a much more detailed response than the suggestion deserved, but he is always pretty darn helpful.

Goldinthecreek wrote:I am amazed at how rude and unhelpful most of the folks on this thread have been.
Kinda wonder about your reading comprehension too.
Not one person has actually answered the question ,some have postulated possibilities. But no one not one of you has said either No or yes in the country of xxx.
I actually wonder if most of you are lawyers cause You sure seem to be about embracing regulations.
Do any of you actually think get your AI is a helpful response to the question ?

Actually, I think everyone has answered your questions.....you're just not liking the answers.

In the United States and Canada at least, the simple answer to your question is NO.

As others have noted, there are ways to do so legally, but that actually requires some study, training, experience and testing. But, in the context of your question, the answer is NO.

Other countries: Dogpilot gave you a pretty good idea of what you can expect there. As I stated, give sub Saharan Africa a try.

But, frankly, I am pretty sure that the answer to your question anywhere on this planet is NO, at least not legally.

Is that direct enough for you?

MTV

Maybe you should start "Air Uber".
Then you can hire some african or middle eastern pilots when business picks up.
Big $$$ to be made.

Q: how do you make a small fortune in commercial aviation?
A: start with a large fortune.
It also helps to have only enough knowledge to be dangerous.

As MTV pointed out your questions have been answered many times very polity but YOU kept pushing. So here's the not so polite answer to ALL your questions just to be completely clear...............NO, NO, NO, NO

For the record I'm not a lawyer, not that there anything wrong with being one

hotrod180 wrote:Maybe you should start "Air Uber".
Then you can hire some african or middle eastern pilots when business picks up.
Big $$$ to be made.

That’s sure a fucked up statement Hotrod. Zero class. Not sure why I’m surprised.

hotrod180 wrote:Maybe you should start "Air Uber".
Then you can hire some african or middle eastern pilots when business picks up.
Big $$$ to be made.

If there ever was a comment that warranted the entire thread being deleted...

Goldinthecreek wrote:I am amazed at how rude and unhelpful most of the folks on this thread have been.
Kinda wonder about your reading comprehension too.
Not one person has actually answered the question ,some have postulated possibilities. But no one not one of you has said either No or yes in the country of xxx.
I actually wonder if most of you are lawyers cause You sure seem to be about embracing regulations.
Do any of you actually think get your AI is a helpful response to the question ?

You do seem well-spoken and fairly self-aware, so I apologize on behalf of the site for the straight-up rudeness. However, if I may make an observation, you do seem to be exhibiting some opinions and asking questions that aren't founded in experience.

I looked back over your prior posts, and was not able to find anything regarding your actual experience in aviation. It is difficult for us here to just suspend context and answer questions at face value. Human nature I suppose, but every question is shrouded in a certain context of experience in flying, like it or not. All of your questions have seemed to only supply knowledge learned from Googling rather than first-hand experience. Perhaps if you gave us a little more background on your flying experience, knowledge, etc we could put this in perspective.

We just don't know you, and all we're being given is a question that, at face value seems ridiculous because most everyone here is operating on a wider context. if you've ever read a "is this airplane right for me?" thread you'll see that we can't just accept what you like. We need to know your mission, your size, your experience, what size relief tube you'll require, and if you think .44 is ok for bear. We're humans making up this community and we can't suspend our validation processes that tell us your question is silly. Give us more background, please. I'll be happy to change my impression.

Unless you're a troll. In that case, bravo. Top notch command of psychological ops.

Dammit Greg, Bagarre...when you quote hotrod's posts it bypasses my ignore setting.

Zzz...you are indeed a diplomat. Though I really don't think there is any rudeness directed towards Goldinthecreek to apologize for. How many times do you have to explain something to someone before it's time to just tell them to go away and figure it out themselves?

Exactly what value does someone bring to this table when their stated ambition is to find somewhere without regulations so they can fly commercially without having to go through any of the burdensome training required to either aviate or maintain an airplane to commercial standards? Frankly, I think people have been exceptionally accommodating towards him/her.

Just my perspective, of course.

I'm willing to extend an olive branch (its a Canadian thing) for our new BCP participant. As suggested by Zane give us a bit of context to work with and lets see if we can offered you the collective wisdom of BCP in reply sir.

I'm going to ground on this thread, I respectfully suggest that we all let Zzz have the final word on this thread life expectancy.

hotrod180 wrote:Maybe you should start "Air Uber".
Then you can hire some african or middle eastern pilots when business picks up.
Big $$$ to be made.

WTF?

No, not at all racist-- just experience based.
In my admittedly limited number of encounters with Uber drivers, all in the Seattle area,
every one of them was from north-of-the-equator Africa or somewhere very near by.
Every one.
This is not racism, it is fact.
If your PC sensibilities can't handle that, I'm sorry.
At least I didn't threaten to shoot their generators.

hotrod180 wrote:No, not at all racist-- just experience based.
In my admittedly limited number of encounters with Uber drivers, all in the Seattle area,
every one of them was from north-of-the-equator Africa or somewhere very near by.
Every one.
This is not racism, it is fact.
If your PC sensibilities can't handle that, I'm sorry.
At least I didn't threaten to shoot their generators.

That's not a fact. It's a narrow minded self fulfilling opinion based on a crappy dataset which is the definition of being racist.
It promotes a stereotype which is racist.

Don't defend it, it just makes you look......racist.

hotrod180 wrote:No, not at all racist-- just experience based.
In my admittedly limited number of encounters with Uber drivers, all in the Seattle area,
every one of them was from north-of-the-equator Africa or somewhere very near by.
Every one.
This is not racism, it is fact.
If your PC sensibilities can't handle that, I'm sorry.
At least I didn't threaten to shoot their generators.

Thanks. Noted and saved for future reference in case I forget.

Looking forward to more of your “facts”.

Will you all please quit quoting him...I'm trying to eat here...

Well, at least i took the heat off the OP.
I guess theres a bright side to everything after all.
I apologize to those i offended.

Mapleflt wrote:
I'm going to ground on this thread, I respectfully suggest that we all let Zzz have the final word on this thread life expectancy.

I like how the snowflakes try to manipulate.

It was fun while it lasted until it went this far off the rails. Head over to Facebook and debate to your heart's content on the racism stuff. That's grouped into politics here and not allowed per the guidelines.