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A newbie's adventures in a 182

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A newbie's adventures in a 182

So my home airport is Class D airspace with a couple commercial carriers. Our ATC is a "training tower" so separations can also be pretty conservative which when coupled with commercial and corporate jet traffic can really draw out the learning process at times. Don't get me wrong I'm glad I'm based in Class D; it has forced me to become comfortable in that environment but it is not always the most efficient for training.

Having said that, we normally head north or southwest to different muni's for real intensive pattern work. There are a decent amount of farm strips in our area although most of them are private; some are on the sectionals, some aren't and the ones that are, only about half of them are still used.

On Tuesday afternoon my instructor and I had planned to fly at about 6pm to let the weather cool off and the wind die down. It was about 445 and I was about to leave work so I checked the weather and looked at the sectional for our planned flight. I noticed a little private strip about 4 miles north of our intended destination. I pulled it up on Google Maps and although it looked a touch forgotten, it was close enough to where we were headed, I figured it was worth a shot to quickly locate the owner. I jumped on the county GIS and got the owner's name, an 84 year old lady named Ms. Colwell. I white-paged her number, called her up and explained to her why I was calling....

She was surprisingly with it to be 84. After about 30 seconds she knew exactly what I was asking and ecstatically told me that I was more than welcome to land anytime and that I should bring a rod for the bass pond. She went on to tell me that her late husband had an old Champ he used to fly out of the field although he never had a pilot's license. She said that strip was his pride and joy. She let me know that the windsock had dry-rotted but made sure I knew to come in from the east because of a ditch and the corn. She went on to tell me that they have had Stearman's and Birddogs come in and even hosted a few fly-ins. Although no one had landed on the field in about two years, she made her son keep it mowed. I could tell me calling her brought back fond memories of her husband and his love for flying, and for that I was thankful to have picked up the phone.

Needless to say, I was STOKED at this point! We buzzed up to the muni, shot a few landings to get dialed in and went on up to Ms. Colwell's field for a look. An encroaching corn field made the approach end narrower. It had about 1,800' usable, decently high trees on one side, two perpendicular farm ditches which necked the usable width down to about 40' in two places with the rest of the runway about 70' if I had to guess. It took a couple passes to get the setup right but with the help of my instructor we finally worked the airplane on in.

I snapped a couple pics as the sun was starting to set, hopped back in and blasted out. It was great fun and also nice to have an instructor who is willing to regularly interject real-world off pavement instruction with primary training. I'm by no means a guy on the "airline track" and because of that he is trying to tailor my instruction to my intended goal of off-airport competency. I feel really fortunate to have that type of resource in North Carolina. In Montana, Idaho, or Alaska, I know plenty of those guys exist, but where I am, not so much.

All in all, it was a pretty awesome way to end the day. I have about 6-7 more private strips within about 50 miles of my home airport that I'm going to be cold calling soon. Hopefully the friendly trend continues. Until next time....

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Wow. Nice little strip, and great photos. I am a newbie in primary training also, and have not had the opportunity to do any grass landings yet. Like you , I live in an area with mostly private turf strips, although I have started getting together a list of public grass strips nearby that I will be visiting once I get my PPL. I have seen a few people at my home airport landing in the grass beside the runway, so that is an option as well. My CFI is pretty conservative overall and I am not so sure that he will be interested in taking me to any. I am "down the street" from you in Greenville, SC..
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Welcome guys. This entire country is covered with old airports, spray strips, and farm/ranch strips. And there were many good pilots like Mr Colwell. I have learned from and taught many of them. We have become more adversarial and litigatious in these modern times. Most of those old grass and dirt strips saw the occasional airplane as a neighbor.
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I dusted off my old GoPro and after some simulated short field practice, I got a little bit of footage while flying the Cape Fear riverbottom in SE North Carolina this week. I know I shorted my landing by a touch...gotta keep practicing!

Apologies for the prop and scratched up lens; I ordered some new goodies after seeing this footage. Also, any ideas what I can go to get rid of the wobble?

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Welcome.

Drop a polarizing filter on the GoPro and the prop banding will go away. Magic!

Keep the adventures coming.

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Wow, great story. I love your airplane! I think the fastback swept tail 182's have a cool look all to themselves. Keep having fun!

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Great thread, keep it coming.

That old lady sounds like quite a gem. Probably worth a flight just to drop off some flowers or another goodwill gesture.
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albravo wrote:Great thread, keep it coming.

That old lady sounds like quite a gem. Probably worth a flight just to drop off some flowers or another goodwill gesture.


No doubt about it! My garden is pumping out veggies right now so I'm doing better than flowers.

Last week I cold called a guy that has a real smooth 1,750' grass strip about 30 miles to my north for permission to practice there. He says sure, just come walk it first. I took his advice and when I walked it, I dropped off some sweet corn, fresh squash and zucchini out of my garden to grease the gears a little.

Couple days later I was up that way buzzing around and I see him out back sitting in his pool drinking a coldie after work. I made a low pass and he waved us on in. We stopped to talk and formally introduce ourselves and he asked if I was the boy that dropped of the veggies. I responded, well yessir, I am. Needless to say, we were quick friends and I can land there whenever I want as long as I keep bringing sweet corn. Hahaha. Gotta love it!
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Last week my uncle needed some help with his boat so I managed a dawn patrol up the coast to help him out and caught a beautiful sunrise in the process. My golden, Idgie, got to make her first trip with me by air, at least here in the lower 48. At age 9, she was mad I woke her up at 5am without the prospect of going hunting. You can see her disgust....

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After a full day on the water and over 80 miles in the ocean, we headed home and managed to also catch an epic sunset over the bay, low and slow, while my buddies were chasing tailing redfish on the flooded grass flats down below. It kills me I never see floatplanes or amphibs here. It would be such a fun playground, albeit a tough salty one for an airplane.

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All in all, sights like these always bring a smile to my face and make me feel very fortunate to be flying.

The bird is going in the shop next week for some maintenance but when she’s back I have a few new grass strips I’ve gotten permission to frequent. Can’t wait to get back off the pavement....
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Great pictures and I bet it was smooth
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I was out last week taking a few aerials of my hemp farm and on the way home ran across this strip. It doesn’t look like it’s been used in awhile and I didn’t have permission to land it so I made a couple passes and kept trucking. It’s 1600’ according to Google with high trees on either end. I’ve landed a couple other strips that distance but this one felt a lot shorter, trees I guess. For that reason I probably wouldn’t have landed it anyway at this point. Fun day poking around nonetheless.

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Couple pics of my little farm on leased land. If all continues to go well and Hurricane Dorian doesn’t get me, a farm I'm going to lease for next year has a grass strip on it. I can’t tell you how pumped I am about that! I dislike being based at a big airport/corporate FBO.

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Also, can’t wait to get this setup on. The fork is being powder coated next week. I’ve ordered the 337 CD from the airplane they came off of (which coincidentally was the same year model 182 as mine) so I’m hopeful that will give my mechanic the info he needs to get these passed, but we’ll see. If not, I’ll be ordering a set of 850s/800 per the STC. Either way it will be a huge improvement from what I have now.

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I wouldn't go the 337 route on the airglas setup with it being stc'd. Call Todd Hitchcock at Hitchcock aviation in Idaho, he can switch the paperwork from the donor airplane to yours. He switched mine for free when I pulled the gear off my 172 to put on my 182. Not sure what your tire issue would be, the stc has been updated to any possible combination you would ever want to run.

Be VERY careful powder coating the fork - Too much heat can ruin the heat treat and give you an expensive paperweight. Anything over 375 deg is said to be detrimental. I would get info from Todd(airglas) before you do this.

Damn, the tube is already installed as well as the mains on rims already. I wouldn't wait, toss that setup on in an easy hour and a half and go.
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Mark Y. wrote:I wouldn't go the 337 route on the airglas setup with it being stc'd. Call Todd Hitchcock at Hitchcock aviation in Idaho, he can switch the paperwork from the donor airplane to yours. He switched mine for free when I pulled the gear off my 172 to put on my 182. Not sure what your tire issue would be, the stc has been updated to any possible combination you would ever want to run.

Be VERY careful powder coating the fork - Too much heat can ruin the heat treat and give you an expensive paperweight. Anything over 375 deg is said to be detrimental. I would get info from Todd(airglas) before you do this.

Damn, the tube is already installed as well as the mains on rims already. I wouldn't wait, toss that setup on in an easy hour and a half and go.
Looks like he has 26" Good years on there. Are they covered under the STC? I didnt think they were.
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I used to live in the south side of Virginia. Your hemp farm looks a little like tobacco. Guess you can smoke both. After the post a few years ago about using paint remover on Cessna landing gear it's scary to think about what the metal is like on a plane and powder coat is no different I guess.
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Mark Y. wrote:I wouldn't go the 337 route on the airglas setup with it being stc'd. Call Todd Hitchcock at Hitchcock aviation in Idaho, he can switch the paperwork from the donor airplane to yours. He switched mine for free when I pulled the gear off my 172 to put on my 182. Not sure what your tire issue would be, the stc has been updated to any possible combination you would ever want to run.

Be VERY careful powder coating the fork - Too much heat can ruin the heat treat and give you an expensive paperweight. Anything over 375 deg is said to be detrimental. I would get info from Todd(airglas) before you do this.

Damn, the tube is already installed as well as the mains on rims already. I wouldn't wait, toss that setup on in an easy hour and a half and go.


Thanks Mark. As the thread title implies, I'm a total newb to all this so your advice is much appreciated. I definitely didn't know about the heat issue with the powder coating. My mains are 26" Goodyear's and the nose is an 8.50. Its probably a little overkill for my intended use at this point, but oh well.
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180Marty wrote:I used to live in the south side of Virginia. Your hemp farm looks a little like tobacco. Guess you can smoke both. After the post a few years ago about using paint remover on Cessna landing gear it's scary to think about what the metal is like on a plane and powder coat is no different I guess.


Its a lot like growing tobacco. Some people smoke it and but most refine out the oil to make all kinds of health stuff. Some folks also make clothes and animal bedding out of the fiber. It just got made legal here last year. Because the state of farming in North Carolina sucks, we have a lot of farmer's jumping into hemp hoping it will turn things around.
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Mark Y. wrote:I wouldn't go the 337 route on the airglas setup with it being stc'd. Call Todd Hitchcock at Hitchcock aviation in Idaho, he can switch the paperwork from the donor airplane to yours. He switched mine for free when I pulled the gear off my 172 to put on my 182. Not sure what your tire issue would be, the stc has been updated to any possible combination you would ever want to run.

Be VERY careful powder coating the fork - Too much heat can ruin the heat treat and give you an expensive paperweight. Anything over 375 deg is said to be detrimental. I would get info from Todd(airglas) before you do this.

Damn, the tube is already installed as well as the mains on rims already. I wouldn't wait, toss that setup on in an easy hour and a half and go.
Looks like he has 26" Good years on there. Are they covered under the STC? I didnt think they were.


From what I've read, I didn't think they were either. It would be nice if they were. The 26" ABW's are STC'd for my airplane but they are also twice as expensive as GY's and I don't have a free set sitting around that I could switch out. If I can't figure it out I'm going to thrown on a set of Dessers. Seems everyone likes those tires.
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Ahh you have 26" ABW's for mains. Now to complicate, or actually make things easier (Keep the feds out of it) I believe ABW has a supplemental stc that adds onto the airglas stc. Talk to ABW and Todd before you go down the rabbit hole. 850's are plenty big for anything but soft sandy beaches and rough gravel bars, but it you already own the 26's and don't own 850's - giver! I would...

I run a 800 nose and 850 mains and they soak up the rough hay field bumps pretty good. From wheels pants to 26 mains/850 nose, my guess is you will loose about 8 plus knots. You will feel it.
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Mark Y. wrote:Ahh you have 26" ABW's for mains. Now to complicate, or actually make things easier (Keep the feds out of it) I believe ABW has a supplemental stc that adds onto the airglas stc. Talk to ABW and Todd before you go down the rabbit hole. 850's are plenty big for anything but soft sandy beaches and rough gravel bars, but it you already own the 26's and don't own 850's - giver!


You got it backwards! I have 26" Goodyears which is why I'm pretty sure I gotta go the field approval route. The ABW's have an STC but two of those things buys me a Sportsman STOL. If I had to sell the Goodyears and buy Desser's instead I think I could come close to breaking even.
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Darn my bad......LOL Long day..... Get Todd to stc the airglas fork to your plane, then try to get an approval just for the 26 goodyears. Might be easiest as you said to just buy a couple dresser 850's.
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